Always Question All Authority

topic posted Thu, October 29, 2009 - 1:37 PM by  Hummingbird
Share/Save/Bookmark
Advertisement
Advertisement
Advertisement
  • Re: Always Question All Authority

    Thu, October 29, 2009 - 1:51 PM
    Let's start with
    Israel
    the zioconists are the cheap shitty little puppets who are told what to do
    and now 'they' control the united states...
    as so too, Israel.
    duh

    • I quite agree with questioning authortity .

      Including that psychological manuel that makes the goofy alllegation that aversion to sex is some alleged "pychological disorder" or "mental illness" .

      A plea for social conformity to the cultural status quo dressed up *as if* it were social science .
      • Jason
        <<<I quite agree with questioning authortity .

        Including that psychological manuel that makes the goofy alllegation that aversion to sex is some alleged "pychological disorder" or "mental illness" .

        A plea for social conformity to the cultural status quo dressed up *as if* it were social science . >>>

        Hey Fucktardo, did you or did you not say that insertion of a phallus into an oriface other than a vagina was contrary to the natural order of things? I really believe you did say that there was a natural order regarding reproductive sex. Your aversion to sex is violative of that natural reproductive order too!!! Those psychologists writing the DSM-V AGREE WITH YOU that anything outside the natural order is deviant. You retarded motherfucker, they side with YOU. The only thing is that what you fail to realize when you go spouting off all of that natural order and shit, you are fucking yourself in that an aversion to reproducing IS UNNATURAL!!!Ha!Ha! Keep digging your hole motherfucker, I'm happy to kick the dirt in on you...This is YOUR social science you stupid fucking SICK-O!Ha!Ha! Your pathetic god said BE FRUITFUL AND MULTIPLY and you have said FUCK YOU THAT'S NASTY. How fucking stupid are you Dude? Besides being a goddamned hypocrite you are dumb as a fucking box of rocks...
        • Take a course in Logic , Adam

          Thu, October 29, 2009 - 10:59 PM
          Jason
          <<<I quite agree with questioning authortity .

          Including that psychological manuel that makes the goofy alllegation that aversion to sex is some alleged "pychological disorder" or "mental illness" .

          A plea for social conformity to the cultural status quo dressed up *as if* it were social science . >>>

          ADAM POSTED :Hey Fucktardo, did you or did you not say that insertion of a phallus into an oriface other than a vagina was contrary to the natural order of things? I really believe you did say that there was a natural order regarding reproductive sex. Your aversion to sex is violative of that natural reproductive order too!!!

          RESPONSE: No, it is not in light of two considerations .

          (1) First of all, there is a difference between abstaining from an activity like insertion of a phallus and the quite separate matter of *misusing* that activity (i.e. sticking it where it is contrary to nature to go) . Abstaining from an activity is NOT necessarily perverse . For example , in an ant colony there are some ants who are celibate who do what they can to help the ant colony in other ways , yet do NOT mate with the queen , because the queen has others to do the maiting and reproduce .

          (2) I am not so opposed to intercourse that I would abstain from in if it were ONLY for the purpose of reproduction in a married situation. I would be willing to have intercourse with my wife to be under the stipulation that it would only be done so that she might have a baby (or two or three) and in a dimly lit room so that she would not be exposed to the sight of a completely unclothed man for that would be inappropriate to look upon . Thus the aversion to sex is such that I do not celebrate sex itself , however it does not hinder me from being fruitful and multiplying .

          ADAM POSTED :Those psychologists writing the DSM-V AGREE WITH YOU that anything outside the natural order is deviant. You retarded motherfucker, they side with YOU. The only thing is that what you fail to realize when you go spouting off all of that natural order and shit, you are fucking yourself in that an aversion to reproducing IS UNNATURAL!!!Ha!Ha! Keep digging your hole motherfucker, I'm happy to kick the dirt in on you...This is YOUR social science you stupid fucking SICK-O!Ha!Ha!

          RESPONSE: The aversion to sex itself is NOT unnatural , though every person abstaining for it even if it were solely for the purpose of reproduction would be .

          ADAM POSTED :Your pathetic god said BE FRUITFUL AND MULTIPLY

          RESPONSE: He did not say to have fun doing it , or do in a room with the lights on ....
          • Re: Take a course in Logic , Adam

            Thu, October 29, 2009 - 11:33 PM
            << RESPONSE: He did not say to have fun doing it , or do in a room with the lights on .... >>>

            He said NOT to?
            • Re: Take a course in Logic , Adam

              Fri, October 30, 2009 - 1:54 AM
              No, that particular verse in Genesis does not say either way, Rockstar .

              What I was trying to convey to Adam was that he had NO grounds to read some implicit endorsement of libido driven fun in the recommendation to be fruitful and multiply .
              • Re: Take a course in Logic , Adam

                Fri, October 30, 2009 - 3:23 AM
                what is the purpose of the female orgasm?
                • Re: Take a course in Logic , Adam

                  Fri, October 30, 2009 - 9:30 AM
                  The best argument I've heard so far springs from the fact that if a woman manages to orgasm simultaneously with a male partner, it helps to draw the semen further into her vagina, increasing her chances of becoming pregnant.

                  But many scientists and other (genuine) authorities on the matter aren't convinced of anything, believing it was more a biological accident more closely related to the idea that the ability to orgasm develops before gender does in the womb.

                  But then why would women be so much MORE capable of orgasm? While men are capable of multiple orgasms through practice and training, most women are generally capable of it right off the bat. I know I am ;)
                  • This is the maximum depth. Additional responses will not be threaded.

                    Re: Take a course in Logic , Adam

                    Fri, October 30, 2009 - 3:54 PM
                    A mistake a lot of scientifically minded people make is looking for a "reason" without considering the logical math of evolution.

                    • physical gender is not absolute by any means, nor is it binary
                    • nothing in nature has a "purpose" - traits have benefits or disadvantages, pretending there's a "purpose" for traits is an ID game that is logically nullified
                    • any trait that includes its advantages for/to its own transmission is more likely to be transmitted, and will succeed in competition with traits that don't encourage transmission. That's why there are no more Shakers, and why a materially advanced / progressive society inevitably evolves toward sexual liberation - conversely it's why societies that stress sexual dominion / repression are materially backward compared to their egalitarian / sexually healthy counterparts. The mechanism can be seen at work in the microcosm that is Mudstones, and on the macroscopic level in the relative privation and brutality of modern theocracies like Salt Lake City, or Afghanistan.
                    • Re: Take a course in Logic , Adam

                      Fri, October 30, 2009 - 5:08 PM
                      • nothing in nature has a "purpose" - traits have benefits or disadvantages, pretending there's a "purpose" for traits is an ID game that is logically nullified

                      --------------------------------

                      right. i meant in jason's version of god's grand plan. the purpose of the male orgasm is obvious. but why would a god who wants humans for no other purpose than to regenerate themselves to make more fans for Himself care if women get off? if women don't like to have the sex it takes to get impregnated, well, that's why we drag them back to our caves by their hair.
                    • Re: The sharif, he don't like it

                      Sun, November 1, 2009 - 1:35 PM
                      << conversely it's why societies that stress sexual dominion / repression are materially backward compared to their egalitarian / sexually healthy counterparts. >>

                      That and the brute fact that the enormous amount of political and cultural repression it takes to run a society along such dog-kennel lines is enormously expensive, diverting energies and resources away as a matter of course from any kind of advancement in any area.

                      This repression must get bigger all the time, as the cultural/sexual police snout out more (and more arcane) offenses to feed the never-ending moral panic that pays their salaries. Such an order can't go forward and can't run in place, so its backwards they go, to the human level of places like Afghanistan and Mississippi.

                      Such precincts, it must be plain, cost humanity as a whole FAR more than they contribute. A suddenly Learyoid USA would create an interesting political and economic vacuum almost certainly ending in World Wars Three and Four.
                      • Re: The sharif, he don't like it

                        Mon, November 2, 2009 - 10:26 AM
                        ROCKSTAR POSTED :Such an order can't go forward and can't run in place, so its backwards they go, to the human level of places like Afghanistan and Mississippi.

                        RESPONSE : Since when is Mississippi a place of puritanical prudish ANTI-sex sentiment ?

                        Furthermore, in actions of a tawdry sort involving consenting adults the informal sanction of guilting and ostracism NOT arrest , is what I advocate . Please stop accusing me of advocating some sort of police state .
                        • Re: The sharif, he don't like it

                          Mon, November 2, 2009 - 10:37 AM
                          << Since when is Mississippi a place of puritanical prudish ANTI-sex sentiment ? >>

                          Whenever you have sex organs and get out of line, same as any other gaggle of churchy primitives.

                          << in actions of a tawdry sort >>

                          A personalized value judgment is a hard thing to have cops -or even your local Baptist ladies' tea circle- enforce.

                          << Please stop accusing me of advocating some sort of police state >>

                          Your ideas, implemented as state policy, could do nothing else.

                          Kindly accept some tiny, infinitesimal fraction of responsibility for the ideas you insist on publicizing...
                        • Re: The sharif, he don't like it

                          Mon, November 2, 2009 - 10:52 AM
                          There is an argument to be made that both the bible and the koran have not been inturpeted correctly reguarding sex. Since men wrote the bible they may have cast god as a male instead of a female. I think since this hypothetical god gave women and men the ability to orgasm that this pleasure could be the key to getting closer to god.

                          It could be argued that we are put on Earth for the purpose of having and giving pleasure. Perhaps a condition of getting into heaven is that we have a high number of orgasms among other things. Once in heaven we would gain the ability to have instant orgasms that are even more powerful than anything we can imagine and they last as long as we choose. This Goddes would never be as boorish as to allow a place like hell to exist. Instead if she decides we have not had enough orgasms to get into heaven we are sent back to Earth to try again, but with some awareness that we should seek more pleasure than the last time.

                          Of course I don't really believe this, but my image of a supreme being is not any less likely to exist as the god of the bible or allah or the Invisible Pink Unicorn, the Flying Spaghetti Monster or Xenu. Like the the Goddess of Pleasure I invented all the others were just sucked out of thin air.
              • Re: Take a course in Logic , Adam

                Fri, October 30, 2009 - 2:15 PM
                Jason
                <<<What I was trying to convey to Adam was that he had NO grounds to read some implicit endorsement of libido driven fun in the recommendation to be fruitful and multiply . >>>

                What I am trying to convey to you is that the reason you do not take a wife and do what your god said is because you spit in it's face to say fuck you that's nasty. The reason you do not have a mate is because you find too many "kitchy sex positive" flaws in everyone around you. Your aversion is evidenced by your proclaiming how UGLY your penis is. THAT IS NOT NORMAL!!!! NORMAL PEOPLE do not find the human anatomy DISGUSTING. You are fucking SICK!!!! I dont give a fuck how many ways you find to try to deny it, you are a fucking sick-o whack job.
                • Re: Take a course in Logic , Adam

                  Fri, October 30, 2009 - 4:06 PM
                  With a man who actually finds it his prerogative to judge the creation of his God, I don't hink you have to pay much attention to any Biblical analysis he might offer. You're dealing with an intellect that can't spot the simple fallacies in its eructations; there's no point in trying to convey anything to J Leary beyond "get off my lawn or I'm calling the cops" or "if you try to talk to my child I will fucking kill you".

                  He is literally unable to comprehend even the simplest argument, and incapable of formulating same. This is why he can earnestly expect you to believe that his values are -the- values. He will misuse the term "a priori" in an attempt to lend credence to his boldly naked and hilariously frothing insanity.

                  He will be confused; he'll swear "no no no; it's perfectly acceptable for me to call all bisexuals 'filthy sleaze' and to blame my personal hatred on their inability to agree with me". Moral paragons like Lucy will comment on how polite and genteel he is, calling for the shaming of those who dare to express rage toward someone who has consistently sermonized for nothing short of the total dehumanization of all people he finds fault in - because no matter how perverted his own notions of fault are, they are emanations from magical paradimensional perfection, which, somehow, he insists doesn't make him - and Lucy, of course - a ridiculous gibbering nazi.

                  This is their way of showing us what kind of people they are. It is incumbent on us to respect and believe them, and not to try to force them to be human beings.
                • Re: Take a course in Logic , Adam

                  Fri, October 30, 2009 - 4:31 PM
                  Jason
                  <<<What I was trying to convey to Adam was that he had NO grounds to read some implicit endorsement of libido driven fun in the recommendation to be fruitful and multiply . >>>

                  ADAM POSTED :What I am trying to convey to you is that the reason you do not take a wife and do what your god said is because you spit in it's face to say fuck you that's nasty.

                  RESPONSE: I do NOT say that. Talk about a loose and NON-accurate attempt at paraphrase of what was typed !

                  You gloss over the stipulations mentioned earlier .

                  ADAM POSTED :The reason you do not have a mate is because you find too many "kitchy sex positive" flaws in everyone around you.

                  RESPONSE: NOT everyone , just a lot of people in the present weird media-influenced era .

                  ADAM POSTED :Your aversion is evidenced by your proclaiming how UGLY your penis is.

                  RESPONSE: Every penis is ugly--especially human ones .

                  ADAM POSTED : THAT IS NOT NORMAL!!!!

                  RESPONSE: It was in the glorious past as opposed to the ugly present era .

                  ADAM POSTED :NORMAL PEOPLE do not find the human anatomy DISGUSTING.

                  RESPONSE: Yes, they certainly do, when it comes to the anatomy of the lower parts of human males .
                  • This is the maximum depth. Additional responses will not be threaded.

                    Re: Take a course in Logic , Loki

                    Fri, October 30, 2009 - 4:49 PM
                    LOKI POSTED :With a man who actually finds it his prerogative to judge the creation of his God,

                    RESPONSE: The creation fell into partial corruption . Read the Genesis cosmogony carefully .

                    LOKI POSTED :I don't hink you have to pay much attention to any Biblical analysis he might offer.

                    RESPONSE: You are encouraging people to play fast and loose and NOT engage in careful exegesis .

                    LOKI POSTED :You're dealing with an intellect that can't spot the simple fallacies in its eructations;

                    RESPONSE: You relativists are the ones supporting fallacy .

                    LOKI POSTED :there's no point in trying to convey anything to J Leary beyond "get off my lawn or I'm calling the cops" or "if you try to talk to my child I will fucking kill you".

                    RESPONSE: Stay away from the kids, Loki . Keep your hardcore bondage pornography to yourself .Don't try and turn the young into sex positive "21 Century" misfits just because you are one, degenerate .

                    LOKI POSTED :He is literally unable to comprehend even the simplest argument, and incapable of formulating same. This is why he can earnestly expect you to believe that his values are -the- values. He will misuse the term "a priori" in an attempt to lend credence to his boldly naked and hilariously frothing insanity.

                    RESPONSE: It's no misuse . Again , you are part of the hipster crowd that rejects logic as "pedantic" so it is no suprise that you would take umbrage with a cogent use of the term a priori .

                    LOKI POSTED :He will be confused; he'll swear "no no no; it's perfectly acceptable for me to call all bisexuals 'filthy sleaze' and to blame my personal hatred on their inability to agree with me".

                    RESPONSE: Such value judgements are constructive criticism .

                    LOKI POSTED : Moral paragons like Lucy will comment on how polite and genteel he is, calling for the shaming of those who dare to express rage toward someone who has consistently sermonized for nothing short of the total dehumanization of all people he finds fault in

                    RESPONSE: Constructive criticism designed to call filth 'filth' is NOT dehumanizing .

                    LOKI POSTED :- because no matter how perverted his own notions of fault are, they are emanations from magical paradimensional perfection, which, somehow, he insists doesn't make him - and Lucy, of course - a ridiculous gibbering nazi.

                    RESPONSE: Contrary to the revisionist tripe we've been fed in much of academia and the mass media --the nazis were actually quasi-relativist . Like the Foucault and Richard Rorty crowd , nazi ideology in the main denied any meta-political criterion for value or utimate truth . Hitler apparently exhorted the masses in Germany to 'think with your blood' . The Aryan fraud was treated as sufficeint unto itself an meta-racial , meta-social criterion was denied .

                    It was the absolutist Jews who were killed by him and absolutist theologians like Dietrich Boenhoeffer who opposed him . It was relativist postmodernists like Paul de Mann in occupied France who were in league with the nazi regime .

                    How dare you compare the struggle for acceptance of the sexual swinging set with people who had a cause that cunted for something that were killed by Hitler's crowd ---people like the monotheistic absolutist Jews , the trade unionists , the Greek soldiers who gave their lives rather than surrender to him when his armies poured into Greece , the students in the White Rose brotherhood that protested him on the campuses . They all had something more important to contribute , instead of mere sex kinks !

                    And keep the filthy language away from ladies like Lucy .
                    • Re: Take a course in Logic , Loki (Fixing a Typo)

                      Fri, October 30, 2009 - 6:30 PM
                      LOKI POSTED :With a man who actually finds it his prerogative to judge the creation of his God,

                      RESPONSE: The creation fell into partial corruption . Read the Genesis cosmogony carefully .

                      LOKI POSTED :I don't hink you have to pay much attention to any Biblical analysis he might offer.

                      RESPONSE: You are encouraging people to play fast and loose and NOT engage in careful exegesis .

                      LOKI POSTED :You're dealing with an intellect that can't spot the simple fallacies in its eructations;

                      RESPONSE: You relativists are the ones supporting fallacy .

                      LOKI POSTED :there's no point in trying to convey anything to J Leary beyond "get off my lawn or I'm calling the cops" or "if you try to talk to my child I will fucking kill you".

                      RESPONSE: Stay away from the kids, Loki . Keep your hardcore bondage pornography to yourself .Don't try and turn the young into sex positive "21 Century" misfits just because you are one, degenerate .

                      LOKI POSTED :He is literally unable to comprehend even the simplest argument, and incapable of formulating same. This is why he can earnestly expect you to believe that his values are -the- values. He will misuse the term "a priori" in an attempt to lend credence to his boldly naked and hilariously frothing insanity.

                      RESPONSE: It's no misuse . Again , you are part of the hipster crowd that rejects logic as "pedantic" so it is no suprise that you would take umbrage with a cogent use of the term a priori .

                      LOKI POSTED :He will be confused; he'll swear "no no no; it's perfectly acceptable for me to call all bisexuals 'filthy sleaze' and to blame my personal hatred on their inability to agree with me".

                      RESPONSE: Such value judgements are constructive criticism .

                      LOKI POSTED : Moral paragons like Lucy will comment on how polite and genteel he is, calling for the shaming of those who dare to express rage toward someone who has consistently sermonized for nothing short of the total dehumanization of all people he finds fault in

                      RESPONSE: Constructive criticism designed to call filth 'filth' is NOT dehumanizing .

                      LOKI POSTED :- because no matter how perverted his own notions of fault are, they are emanations from magical paradimensional perfection, which, somehow, he insists doesn't make him - and Lucy, of course - a ridiculous gibbering nazi.

                      RESPONSE: Contrary to the revisionist tripe we've been fed in much of academia and the mass media --the nazis were actually quasi-relativist . Like the Foucault and Richard Rorty crowd , nazi ideology in the main denied any meta-political criterion for value or utimate truth . Hitler apparently exhorted the masses in Germany to 'think with your blood' . The Aryan fraud was treated as sufficeint unto itself an meta-racial , meta-social criterion was denied .

                      It was the absolutist Jews who were killed by him and absolutist theologians like Dietrich Boenhoeffer who opposed him . It was relativist postmodernists like Paul de Mann in occupied France who were in league with the nazi regime .

                      How dare you compare the struggle for acceptance of the sexual swinging set with people who had a cause that counted for something that were killed by Hitler's crowd ---people like the monotheistic absolutist Jews , the trade unionists , the Greek soldiers who gave their lives rather than surrender to him when his armies poured into Greece , the students in the White Rose brotherhood that protested him on the campuses . They all had something more important to contribute , instead of mere sex kinks !

                      And keep the filthy language away from ladies like Lucy .
                      • Re: You idiot,

                        Sat, October 31, 2009 - 1:40 PM
                        you were told to shut the fuck up, Goebbels. Get to it.

                        Having been called all sorts of interesting names by the Lucy alt, I still find it difficult to chuckle "ha ha the bored whore is hardcore enough to be angling to wring a surprise sexy pearl or two out of your ugly johnson" because it's not very gentlemanly, but imagine that I'm laughing my ass off all the same.
                  • This is the maximum depth. Additional responses will not be threaded.

                    Re: Take a course in Logic , Adam

                    Fri, October 30, 2009 - 5:19 PM
                    Jason
                    <<<ADAM POSTED : THAT IS NOT NORMAL!!!!

                    RESPONSE: It was in the glorious past as opposed to the ugly present era . >>>

                    Well then go kill yourself and get the fuck out of it! Because it is that way because unlike you, society has evolved to be BETTER than that old anal retentive bullshit. FUCK YOU, GO DIE ALREADY!

Recent topics in "Heated Debate"

Topic Author Replies Last Post
When I Say "I Am A Christian" offlinePinky 49 Yesterday, 11:15 PM
Jason claims Woodie Guthrie was not political Josh 8 Yesterday, 10:59 PM
christmas alone Reggie 12 Yesterday, 10:55 PM
jason leary queer Hector 26 Yesterday, 12:07 PM