Pakistan Threatens Europe Over Islam?
"The Pakistani government has essentially threatened the European Union with violence if it doesn't accept Islam as the "one truth faith of God Almighty." Under the guise of making a simple request for the EU to rein in "freedom of expression" - i.e., freedom of speech - so as not to offend Muslims, Pakistan has basically given the European governments an ultimatum: Do not ever criticize Islam again, or you will be terrorized into submission.
The Pakistan Daily Times reports from Islamabad (6/8/08):
Pakistan will ask the European Union countries to amend laws regarding freedom of expression in order to prevent offensive incidents such as the printing of blasphemous caricatures of Prophet Muhammad...and the production of an anti-Islam film by a Dutch legislator, sources in the Interior Ministry told Daily Times on Saturday.
In other words, it will become illegal to object to Islamic doctrine, to deny Muhammad as the "Holy Prophet" of the God of the universe, and to criticize the Quran as a book filled with violent and insidious intentions towards non-Muslims."
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"The Pakistani government has essentially threatened the European Union with violence if it doesn't accept Islam as the "one truth faith of God Almighty." Under the guise of making a simple request for the EU to rein in "freedom of expression" - i.e., freedom of speech - so as not to offend Muslims, Pakistan has basically given the European governments an ultimatum: Do not ever criticize Islam again, or you will be terrorized into submission.
The Pakistan Daily Times reports from Islamabad (6/8/08):
Pakistan will ask the European Union countries to amend laws regarding freedom of expression in order to prevent offensive incidents such as the printing of blasphemous caricatures of Prophet Muhammad...and the production of an anti-Islam film by a Dutch legislator, sources in the Interior Ministry told Daily Times on Saturday.
In other words, it will become illegal to object to Islamic doctrine, to deny Muhammad as the "Holy Prophet" of the God of the universe, and to criticize the Quran as a book filled with violent and insidious intentions towards non-Muslims."
tbknews.blogspot.com/2008/06...lam.html
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Re: Pakistan Threatens Europe Over Islam?
Wed, June 11, 2008 - 4:39 AMOnce again, we have to remind ourselves (And I say this with MUCH saracasim)...."Islam is a religion of peace....it's a religion of tolerance"
and that it is only a few radicals that are "Hijacking" this religion.....
What a bunch of Horseshit!
Everytime I or You hear those comments?
Just remember that anyone who does not follow the words of the Quran? Is considered an Infidel, anyone who questions the Quran or questions the Muslim Lifestyle? Is considered an Infidel and anyone who "draws" a picture to interpret what Mohammed thier prophet looked like? Is an infidel and is marked for punishment and/or death.
I am sick and tired of hearing about how "good and just and kind and peaceful" the Islamic Religion and how all muslims are supposedly good human beings....
Remember 9-11 and remember when you hear on the news about suicide bombings killing 20, 30, 40, 50 or a 100 innocent people....innocent Men, Women AND Children who are just trying to live their lives
Is Christianity or any other Faith perfect?
No, not at all...atrocities have been committed in the name of a lot of religions throughout history
Why then am I "supposedly" picking on the Islamic Faith?
Think about this....Pakistan is an Islamic Country....and unstable Islamic Country that knowingly harbors Al Quida Members in its country.
This is also a country that has Nuclear Weapons too....so think about this if you will....say that Europe doesn't bow to it's wishes?
What's next? Pakistan turns a blind eye to members of a terrorsit cell, allows them to smuggle a suitcase sized nuclear weapon or several "dirty bombs" into european capitals to detonate and kill hundreds of thousands of people...all because of a drawing of their so-called prophet or because of a slight towards their religion?
Just a thought/possible future scary scenario to consider
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Wed, June 11, 2008 - 7:08 AM"Is Christianity or any other Faith perfect?
No, not at all...atrocities have been committed in the name of a lot of religions throughout history"
there is no comparison between Jesus and Mohammed. Mohammed killed thousands, Jesus killed no one, Mohommed encouraged the killing of infidels, Jesus encouraged the killing of no one. Of course Christians are not perfect, no human is. But the issue is not religion, it is people. People have killed under the name of Christ, but they must be inconsistant to do so. One is not inconsistant to kill under the name of "no god", which is why atheists have killed so many more than all religions combined! Mohammedans have killed large numbers and will continue to precisly because their religion demands it.
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Re: Pakistan Threatens Europe Over Islam?
Wed, June 11, 2008 - 10:48 AMWe cannot survive as a race when one group believes they are entitled to enlightenment and others are not. Religious fanatics are the most narcissistic people on the planet. Anyone believing they and they alone are favored by God become less human with a disease ego, a borderline lunatic.
The prophets are wisemen we can all learn from, their defenders are small minded biggots. Truth needs no defense. Let reason prevail, that is our strength.
When we all just GROW UP stop all this Santa Claus stuff! There are to many people with diverse opinions alive today to live a life dicated by someone else more ignorent than ourselves. -
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Unsu...
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Wed, June 11, 2008 - 11:25 AM"We cannot survive as a race when one group believes they are entitled to enlightenment and others are not."
this is a strange statement. Who believes they are "entitled to enlightenment" exclusively?
"Religious fanatics are the most narcissistic people on the planet."
this is an assertion devoid of any supporting facts and interestingly comes from a person whose avatar is a naked photo of himself. I have found that atheists can be quite proud and self absorbed also. It seems that pride is a sin common to all, not just religious folks. Christianity condemns pride.
"Anyone believing they and they alone are favored by God become less human with a disease ego, a borderline lunatic."
this is a straw man argument. If someone is handing out one hundred dollar bills, I take one and you decline, how am I "less human", "alone favored" "borderline lunatic" or suffer from a "diseased ego"? These are just inflammatory words with no basis in truth. The issue isn't what someone believes, it is the basis upon which they believe it.
"The prophets are wisemen we can all learn from, their defenders are small minded biggots. Truth needs no defense. Let reason prevail, that is our strength."
more unsubtantiated attack words. When people are unreasonable, reason itself needs a defense. In science, peer review is a process of defense for a particular hypothesis deemed to be true. It is silly to assert that scientific *truth* needs no defense any more that historical or religious truth.
"When we all just GROW UP stop all this Santa Claus stuff!"
this is an incomplete sentence. I assume you left out "will" after "when".
"There are to many people with diverse opinions alive today to live a life dicated by someone else more ignorent than ourselves."
another confusing sentence which makes little sense logically. Are you saying that just because people have diverse opinions that no absolute truth exists? And why should anyone live by your opinion over any others?
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Unsu...
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Wed, June 11, 2008 - 11:30 AM"Let reason prevail, that is our strength."
How do you know that reason is really reasonable? If all religious ideas are false and all that exists is the material, why would immaterial universal logic work? You want to borrow logic from Christianity and use it against religion in general. This is like denying the existance of air while respiring to make your statement. -
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Thu, June 12, 2008 - 11:11 PMDan "Jesus killed no one"
- Actually yes he did as a child and he made someone go blind too. He was pretty mean as a youngster. But you'd have to read the OTHER Gospels to get those details. -
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Unsu...
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Fri, June 13, 2008 - 7:44 AM"- Actually yes he did as a child and he made someone go blind too. He was pretty mean as a youngster. But you'd have to read the OTHER Gospels to get those details."
Sorry Chopper, I don't take the Globe. What is it saying these days anyway? -
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Fri, June 13, 2008 - 6:58 PMYes, ignorance is bliss but only for so long.
In The Infancy Gospel of Thomas ... Jesus is portrayed as an angry boy who kills and maims people. In one episode (3:1-3), a furious five-year-old Jesus calls the young son of Annas the scribe a "godless, brainless moron" and vows to make him "wither away," instantly
killing him. In the next chapter, Jesus kills a boy who bumps into him. When the parents of the murdered child complain, Jesus causes them to go blind.
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Re: Pakistan Threatens Europe Over Islam?
Fri, June 13, 2008 - 7:00 PMYes, ignorance is bliss but only for so long.
In The Infancy Gospel of Thomas ... Jesus is portrayed as an angry boy who kills and maims people. In one episode (3:1-3), a furious five-year-old Jesus calls the young son of Annas the scribe a "godless, brainless moron" and vows to make him "wither away," instantly
killing him. In the next chapter, Jesus kills a boy who bumps into him. When the parents of the murdered child complain, Jesus causes them to go blind.
What an excellent example of the religion you worship.
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Re: Pakistan Threatens Europe Over Islam?
Sat, June 14, 2008 - 12:18 PMChopper22 threatens Jews over Kraft Dinner? -
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Re: Pakistan Threatens Europe Over Islam?
Sun, June 22, 2008 - 7:50 PM"We cannot survive as a race when one group believes they are entitled to enlightenment and others are not."
We can survive as a race and entitlement is a basic part of our evolution. Its what made us spread across the world to escape others that thought they were better then us. (while secretly knowing we were better then them) Both north and south America have been colonized repeatedly by people who thought they were better then each other. It drives our wars and is at the heart of our diversity I think our biggest problem is that we are running out of room.
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