Tribe.net. Local Connections Pinky http://heateddebate.tribe.net/thread/c0d97ccf-cc34-4b98-af7b-8d5ec241be8f#d34936ce-89ba-480d-9a11-af56e802ffc7 2009-06-23T15:51:13Z 2009-06-23T15:51:13Z

John: "Maybe, the problem is your dislike of sewage and waste. Our feces and urine are the gold and brown food for new life bacteria and plants derive neutrients from them and replenish the earth, just as sperm and egg renew human life, the design has a certian ironic synergy does it not?" Surely everything plays its part in the great Circle of Life, but while our waste might encourage bacteria, plants, and other forms of life to thrive, that doesn't change the fact that it's still waste to us, and potentially harmful if tampered with improperly. Regardless of the beneficial effects our waste may have for OTHER species, it stands to reason that our pleasure epicenter smack dab in the middle of our sewage dump would be quite the sloppy design job.

Pinky 2009-06-23T15:51:13Z John http://heateddebate.tribe.net/thread/c0d97ccf-cc34-4b98-af7b-8d5ec241be8f#b6dc9efb-3124-462e-9a5e-3b4384d74cca 2009-06-23T04:47:50Z 2009-06-23T04:47:50Z

an entertainment complex in the middle of a sewage system; no engineer would design that..." > Maybe, the problem is your dislike of sewage and waste. Our feces and urine are the gold and brown food for new life bacteria and plants derive neutrients from them and replenish the earth, just as sperm and egg renew human life, the design has a certian ironic synergy does it not?

John 2009-06-23T04:47:50Z John http://heateddebate.tribe.net/thread/c0d97ccf-cc34-4b98-af7b-8d5ec241be8f#e95fcfbf-9698-4b95-a2dd-070008dd94b3 2009-06-23T04:42:28Z 2009-06-23T04:42:28Z

Back when religious people could control a discussion like this they would have said that pointing to something negative in "creation" is not valid or even allowed. However pointing out positive things would be allowed back in the days that they were in control. I think some Christians would answer that the reason their god but the fun center in the middle of the sewage system is so that we think of sex as dirty. If they had their way sex would be only for married hetrosexuals and only for making babies and to be done with the lights out or our eyes tightly shut and of course only in the missionary position (man on top) Since so many religions put so much focus on supressing the human sex drive I have become more convinced that liberating the libido even further can help undermine religious domination of our culture. The more that we are free to pursue physcial pleasure the more difficult it becomes to control people which is what religion is mostly about. Once they convince people that an all powerful invisibe being is watching and judging them in the bedroom the eaiser it is to warp minds with other nonsense. If you free up the libido you can free up the human race> Nice work on that strawman, ... so lame, you can't incite someone to object so you make up your own objections, you must be proud.

John 2009-06-23T04:42:28Z Hummingbird http://heateddebate.tribe.net/thread/c0d97ccf-cc34-4b98-af7b-8d5ec241be8f#2a7d31f9-6bb3-4c7b-a568-9d5f1deffb25 2009-06-22T20:27:36Z 2009-06-22T20:24:21Z

Back when religious people could control a discussion like this they would have said that pointing to something negative in "creation" is not valid or even allowed. However pointing out positive things would be allowed back in the days that they were in control. I think some Christians would answer that the reason their god but the fun center in the middle of the sewage system is so that we think of sex as dirty. If they had their way sex would be only for married hetrosexuals and only for making babies and to be done with the lights out or our eyes tightly shut and of course only in the missionary position (man on top) Since so many religions put so much focus on supressing the human sex drive I have become more convinced that liberating the libido even further can help undermine religious domination of our culture. The more that we are free to pursue physcial pleasure the more difficult it becomes to control people which is what religion is mostly about. Once they convince people that an all powerful invisibe being is watching and judging them in the bedroom the eaiser it is to warp minds with other nonsense. If you free up the libido you can free up the human race.

Hummingbird 2009-06-22T20:24:21Z Pinky http://heateddebate.tribe.net/thread/c0d97ccf-cc34-4b98-af7b-8d5ec241be8f#332dc88e-f63b-41c9-a49c-ae7945696292 2009-06-22T18:58:21Z 2009-06-22T18:58:21Z

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1cKD93W3yg My favorite quote: "...an entertainment complex in the middle of a sewage system; no engineer would design that..."

Pinky 2009-06-22T18:58:21Z