<<<ADAM POSTED :If it looks like a demented sexual aversion and walks like a demented sexual aversion, chances are your sexual aversion has been discovered.

RESPONSE: That you, Adam, claim that an aversion to sex is some sort of pathological "mentally disturbed" affair just goes to show how credulous and given over to the quasi-religious pronouncements of sex- positive , pop psychology that the present media influenced decade is up to the scalp in. Don;t take the following personally but accusing someone of being mentally disturbed , deviant psychopathic ect because they are against liberated sex ...just goes to show how twilight zone the present era has become .>>>

ADAM POSTED :FUCK YOU IN YOUR POP PSYCHOLOGY ERA ASS PATHETIC SCUM!
DONT TRY TO CHANGE YOUR TUNE NOW. DONT FLIP FLOP NOW MOTHERFUCKING HATEFUL BITCH!!!
YOU SHOWED ME YOUR TRUE COLORS!
I WAS THE BICURIOUS! I WAS THE BISEXUAL!

RESPONSE: I thought that you avowed that you were homosexual . Are you homosexual or bisexual ?

If you happen to be bisexual why would you not want to become 100 % homosexual instead ?

ADAM POSTED :THEN I FIGURED OUT MY PLACE IN THE SCHEME OF THINGS!
YOU SPREAD HATE, YOU FOSTER GAY TEEN SUICIDE! YOU ARE A MURDERER!
YOU ARE THE MOTHERFUCKER THAT MADE ME PULL THE GODDAMNED TRIGGER ON THE GUN TO MY HEAD!!!
YOU!!! YOU WITH THE HATEFUL DISRESPECT FOR HUMAN SEXUALITY, YEA YOU!
Luckily for me the gun misfired....My homophobic brother that was conditioned by people like YOU still cries like a baby when he remembers coming around the corner of the house and hearing the gun click. He would have seen my brains splattered all over the side of our goddamned house because of motherfuckers like YOU!!!!
YOU dont get it because YOU are a narcissistic bastard who dont care about anything but YOUSELF and YOUR PATHETIC IDEOLOGIES!

RESPONSE: Sir , I NEVER intended that event to happen to you nor to anyone . i wish that you had NOT had that traumatic experience .

A bicurious youth could be informed that they would be better off if they became homosexual, or monogamously heterosexual without any risque sex , or NON-sexual..they could be informed that they do NOT have to take horrendous measures like suicide .

Accuising me of caring primarily about myself is a false accusation. I care about the children like my best friends three year old daughter ... Want her to live in a world where she can keep her INNOCENCE FOREVER and never be exposed directly to anything tawdry or puerile ...where she can live a life of quaint purity, surrounded by nice wholesome people not by sexual filth , nor lurid jokes about excrement, nor any racy contemporary pop culture kitsch .

My friend and I will do what we can to protect the children...keep them away from new generation , MTV-era , sordid pop culture filth . The sheltered life is a damn good life .

Jason: "So people are not preoccupied with sex if when they frequently mention it they mention it in a relaxed sort of way ?"

People who are preoccupied with sex don't talk about much of anything else, and talk about it seriously or literally. Fleeting jokes and occasional suggestive references hardly qualifies as "absorbing or engrossing to the exclusion of other things." dictionary.reference.com/brows...occupy

Jason: "There is more and more cases, I'm finding, of sex positve people that exhort someone whom they apparently know to be a prude..a Victorian era throwback to get invovled in sex . What I was trying to do was debunk any misconception that the liberated sex crowd was primarily a group of people that are shy and timid about the tawdry sex activity they engage in and keep it to themselves and that they are somehow harried and chased around by
anti-sex people . There are more and more cases I'm finding of people who avow sex positive attitude who are crusaders for liberated sex and recommend it to people they know have an aversion to that !"

The only people you will hear opposition to your views on sex are from people who are NOT shy or timid about their sexual views, and those you aggravate into dismissing their otherwise shy/timid approach by hounding them on how "evil" it is and how guilty they "should" feel. You will never knowingly encounter anyone who is shy or timid about it unless you speak with them approvingly about it, thus allowing them a nonjudgmental and relaxed atmosphere in which to casually discuss it. DUH.

Jason: "On what specifc grounds do you accuse him of "being a prick" ?"

He's a prick. An asshole. A douchebag. A dickhead. A fucktard. Look them up.

Jason: "Again , the study presented of the affective quality of the mounting drive towards orgasm --that affective *drive itself* is a study based on a deductive unpacking of that drive ...It is not the inductive sort of affair that involves statistics . Study the *intentional object* of the affective drive towards orgasm ."

So, you speak from no experience, you can site no statistics, and you can't even provide me a link or specific reference to anything you're trying to use to support your position?

<< I am *against* MTV >>

ROCKSTAR POSTED :So you say, yet your own thinking looks to have been colonized by it- inability to focus,

RESPONSE: On the contrary, the posts I've posted insist on single-minded focus .

That accusation is a colossal switcharoo . MTV promotes the whole relativist acceptance and respect for opinions shtick. That is why I have described the statements of Loki , Pinky, Andrew and others here, as MTV Generation .

ROCKSTAR POSTED : reliance upon slogans and feelgood buzzwords

RESPONSE: Which buzzwords are you referring to ?. I certainly rail *against* the buzzwords bandied about by the pop culture news and entertainment media .

ROCKSTAR POSTED :, proud withdrawal into a fake universe with no discernible values,

RESPONSE: But I espouse aboslutism about ethical and esthetic values .

ROCKSTAR POSTED : the insistence that conformist dicta is somehow rebellion against oppression- their whole initial shuck is your stock-in-trade on here.

RESPONSE: What dicta that I espouse do you allege is conformist ? I hope you don't refer to me esposing puritancal opposition to liberated sex as somehow being a conformist dicta . Liberated sex is as status quo and mundane as it gets ....just overhear most of the television sitcoms -and made for t.v. movies on lifetime (which relatives of mine are given to playing on their t.v. sets) and one can hear how amusement with sex is the coin of the cultural realm in t.v-.influenced American suburbia ....

<< RESPONSE: You are conflating the concept of voting on (A) The *plea for acting on* a definition of virtue in terms of a social informal sanction towards a person and (Z) the conceptual content of the defintion itself >>

ROCKSTAR POSTED :A sentence like this presents primary evidence of how badly you were served by whatever means were used to educate you. This attempt to posit a pepper vs. gnatshit distinction between calling for participation in a Tribe witch hunt and calling for participation in a Tribe witch hunt is likely all you need to sue the motherfucking shit out of your onetime teachers. NO ONE is *born* dumb enough to say nonsense like that on their own!

RESPONSE: Since when is being hyperprecise about thin distinctions any sort of vice ? Since when should people be exhorted not to go too far with precision but instead have some sort of well rounded glossing over of distinctions ?

The great philosophers of history Parmenides, Plato, Abelard , Descartes, Christian Wolff, Kant , C,D Broad, Rudolf Carnap, Brentano, Edmund Husserl, David Lewis, Saul Kripke ect largely insisted on being hyperprecise about distinctions of meaning of concepts ect ...

<< Remember distinctions matter and it is a lazy mind that *refuses* to split hairs . >>

ROCKSTAR POSTED :That holds that the greatest philosopher need only be the one who insists upon his folly and refuses to hear rebuke or shut up about it. This view would have it that any latrine lawyer is the full peer of Plato.

RESPONSE: It is quite bizarre that you call the endeavor of someone insisting on the most precise of distinctions, an endeavor which also, insists that thin distinctions *never* be glossed over "folly". On what grounds do you call being hyperprecise "folly" ?


<< However, an interlocuter with a sound thesis or argument is quite willing to go into long elaboration . >>

ROCKSTAR POSTED :A fraud will also collect mountains of footnotes and drone on and on without sense until physically gagged.

RESPONSE: On what grounds do you ascribe fraud to someone who does that ?

<< Aren't you ironically using the very word 'define' in reference to the plea I have presented to ostracize Loki , quite loosely, Mr.Rockstar ? >>

ROCKSTAR POSTED :What do you mean by "ironically", Jason?

IRONY
3(a) 1. incongruity between the actual result of a sequence of events
and the normal or expected result

It is, indeed, ironically the use that you , Mr.Rockstar make of the word define, since ostensibly, when people are to use the word define at least with the word 'define' itself, it is expected that there be a lexical delineation of the core of concepts and/ore metaconcepts to which the term refers ---what in linguistics is called the *referent* of the term. Yet in the present weird, television media- influenced era, where terms are bandied about in a fast and loose manner, even the very word 'define' itself has been used *out of* its proper context and *not* in an exacting ,precise manner .

The use that you made of the word 'define', Mr.Rockstar, failed to live up to the expected sequence of events where one 1. presents the word and then 2. presents it in the ideally expected manner of using it in a way in keeping with the listing of lexical pattern of core concepts some other term .

Instead of doing that, you, Mr.Rockstar, used the term 'define' out of context, to refer to the plea I had made for people to act on a characterization , when the plea was *not* to vote on the characterization itself but merely a call to act on it .

Thus, it was ironic in that the very word 'define', which even in other somewhat more recent eras of history where usage of *other terms* in popular parlance was already getting loose, people would have at least tried to be more careful in handling the very term 'define' itself , has in the present era now itself gotten wrongly used in much popular discourse. I've overheard people use the word 'define' to refer to not the proper lexical exposition of a term , but instead to refer to how arguably well some example that is... what , in popular parlance is sometimes called "graphic example"... of a given phenomenon... where such a "graphic example" is used in place of a legitimate definition . That sort of misdefining of the the very word 'define' takes ---what in epistemology is referred to as the *extentional* meaning of a term and uses it in place of the proper *intensional* meaning (the latter ... the intensional being what a genuine definition is supposed to be about) .

Lateral thinkers , which is what a lot of relativists often tend to be , often mix up the intensional meaning of a term with the extentional ) .

<< ROCKSTAR POSTED :You are without sin?

RESPONSE: At the present minute I am ..>>

ROCKSTAR POSTED :How do you know this?

RESPONSE : At the moment I was posting the post above, which you have replied to, I was not doing anything of a sinful sort, not thinking any sinful thoughts (e.g. no thoughts of murder, no thoughts of rape, no thoughts of cheating people nor any other unethical malfescence nor mental dishonesty), and there was no desire to do any evil deeds nor think any evil thoughts . ADDENTUM : I knew that by observing the internal dialogue going on in the mind at the time .
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Most of the Jews I know are much more tolerant than Christians. The Christians that I know are embarrased by the fundie bigots. In fact the Christians and Jews in my circle of friends are sex positive.

My differences with some Christians range from major issues like gay rights and the right to choose to minor issues like the existence of a deity.

Jason
<<<Let's try some attempt at geting you to reason rightly .

I am NOT sex positive. I am NOT contemporary .

Your crowd is . So if you want killers and rapists don't go looking for them among people who want a return to an innocent Jimmy Stewart movie sort of america . Go looking amongst the fashionably funky people who like sexy kinks and similar trash , that's where you find the riff raff that makes the news .It's a simple induction , Adam ...

Try to be logical for once , Adam . You may one day start to like logic , years from now . >>>

Here you go fucktard:
Sexual Aversion Disorder



Category


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Sexual Disorders and Dysfunctions



Etiology


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Some evidence suggests that relationship issues and/or sexual trauma in childhood may play a role in the development of this disorder.



Symptoms


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Persistent or recurring aversion to or avoidance of sexual activity. The aversion must result in significant distress for the individual and is not better accounted for by another disorder or physical diagnosis. When presented with a sexual opportunity, the individual may experience panic attacks or extreme anxiety.



Treatment


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Typical treatment would involve discovering and resolving underlying conflict or life difficulties.



Prognosis


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Varies, but increases with the ability to gain insight and work through relationship issues or issues stemming from childhood which are playing a role in this disorder.
allpsych.com/disorders/s...version.html

You mention logic but you are the fucking poster child for FLAWED LOGIC! You believe in the flawed logic of god, but you take it one step further to spit in your own gods face by denying and demeaning the very sexuality you were given at birth. You insist on quoting the bible, but you purposefully fuck over the "Be fruitful and multiply" part of Genesis by fostering your deviant sexual aversion and trying to cleave it unto others in direct opposition to what you claim to believe. So on top of your many flaws you can add FUCKING HYPOCRITE to the list along with these;
hypocrite - a person who professes beliefs and opinions that he or she does not hold in order to conceal his or her real feelings or motives
dissembler, dissimulator, phoney, phony, pretender
beguiler, cheater, deceiver, trickster, slicker, cheat - someone who leads you to believe something that is not true
charmer, smoothie, smoothy, sweet talker - someone with an assured and ingratiating manner
Tartufe, Tartuffe - a hypocrite who pretends to religious piety (after the protagonist in a play by Moliere)
whited sepulcher, whited sepulchre - a person who is inwardly evil but outwardly professes to be virtuous

You want some logic bitch, you've got it. You are a pathetic phagocytic sick-o scumbag hater pointing to the rest of society like Charles Manson saying "I'm not crazy! You motherfuckers are crazy!!!". Hows that for logic bitch? And it is all documented right here so you cant crab crawl out of it.

<<<LOKI POSTED :Adam's animus aside, he is 100% right that J's "discourse" strongly resembles the profile of a dangerously ill person.

RESPONSE : Is the mere willingness of a mendacious four-flusher like yourself, Lokifreign, to assert such an allegation all the "proof" that is necessary ? >>>

Your sick-o sexual aversion posts are all of the evidence necessary fucktardo! You wanted to play the fucking clown, so we have painted you a fucking clown smile. A very fitting logical smile I might add. You fucking SICK-O!!!

Some people really don't like humor.

What to buy a pirated DVD with ridiculous English subtitles?

<< RESPONSE: Evidence please , Rockstar .? >>

ROCKSTAR POSTED :Of *what*, silly? That movies are fiction, Jimmy Stewart was a movie actor or that that's their projection speed?

RESPONSE: Neither . More like evidence for the much touted claim that the era when the Jimmy Movie Stewart movies was not so wholesome as thought and that the closets back then were as full of skeletons as the relativist crowd likes to allege .

ROCKSTAR POSTED :Also, it would be nice if you'd occasionally produce evidence of your own for your insistently froot-loopy comments

RESPONSE: Mr.Rockstar , I have posted a welter of posts with a welter of paragraphs in the present message board and at intellectual barbarians . When you get a chance try to address all of it not just a few paragraphs and sentences , please .

<< the current pop culture media which glorifies such debauchery has desensitzed people to such phenomenon and glamourized it ! >>

ROCKSTAR POSTED :Prove.

RESPONSE : First of all, delineate what conditions you propose must first met before you deem a given proposition to be prooven . ?

<< The tawdry penchant for liberated sexuality has certainly been amplified by television content which in recent eras has become more and more lurid . >>

Define "lurid."

RESPONSE :
The following definition number (4) was culled from Webster's 1913 Unadbridged definition .The ones below are culled from a lexicon called Wordnet .

4. Vivid, sensational, or shocking; graphic or melodramatic; as, the lurid details of a murder.

WordNet Dictionary
Adj. 1. lurid - horrible in fierceness or savagery; "lurid crimes"; "a lurid life"
2. lurid - glaringly vivid and graphic; marked by sensationalism; "lurid details of the accident"
Synonyms: shocking
3. lurid - shining with an unnatural red glow as of fire seen through smoke; "a lurid sunset"; "lurid flames"
4. lurid - ghastly pale; "moonlight gave the statue a lurid luminence"

The term 'shocking' is key . Graphically gruesome and hence shocking .