James W. von Brunn

topic posted Wed, June 10, 2009 - 2:17 PM by  Dan
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Is he a far right nut or far left? Do these designations apply? No doubt we will hear spin in the media for both views. On thing for sure, Brunn was a Holocaust denier, a Jew Hater and a 911 conspiracy theorist. Here is an interesting alleged quote of his I found before most of the sites relating to him were brought down:

"Jesus Christs tells us to love our enemies, forgive them, turn the other cheek, give them our cloak and coat; give away our personal belongings and follow Him. Have you done this?
Do you know any alleged Christians that have ?

Nietzsche said, “The last Christian died on the cross.”

One cannot love your neighbors and segregate them. Therefore. Multi-cukturalism is a prerequisite to being Christian. It is for that reason the POPE advocates open borders with Mexico. The word CATHOLIC means “UNIVERSAL” The Churdh ALWAYS has sought a united World under CHRIST. The ILLUMINATI too seeks One World Government – which may be why Henry Kissinger, ZIONIST, visits the Vatican so frequently.

James von Brunn-88"
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  • Re: James W. von Brunn

    Thu, June 11, 2009 - 9:03 AM
    James Von Brunn is a terrorist scumbag.
    • Re: James W. von Brunn

      Fri, June 12, 2009 - 8:46 AM
      "James Von Brunn is a terrorist scumbag."

      Which of course makes him "far right wing".
      • Dan
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        Re: James W. von Brunn

        Sun, June 14, 2009 - 7:28 PM
        were the weatherman underground "right wing" terrorists?

        Von Brunn was a Christian hater and basher, much like hummingbird and others on this tribe
        Von Brunn hated Jews and the state of Israel. Christians and conservatives are among the greatest supports of Israel and the Jewish people in general. Liberals are often the ones who accuse Israel of unfounded atrocities, will calling so-called "palestinian" terrorists freedom fighters!
        Von Brunn was a 911 truther. There are both left and right wingers in this group, but the majority are lefties. Just pull up the politics tribe and you will see
        Von Brunn hated government.

        In many ways he defys classification, but right winger, he was not.
        • Re: James W. von Brunn

          Sun, June 14, 2009 - 7:53 PM
          Statement by Erik von Brunn
          Son of Accused Holocaust Shooter Issues Statement Concerning His Father
          June 12, 2009


          My father's beliefs have been a constant source of verbal and mental abuse my family has had to suffer with for many years. His views consumed him, and in doing so, not only destroyed his life, but destroyed our family and ruined our lives as well.

          For a long time, I believed this was our family's cross to bear. Now, it is not only my families lives that are in shambles, but those who were directly affected by his actions; especially the family of Mr. Johns, who bravely sacrificed his life to stop my father.

          I cannot express enough how deeply sorry I am it was Mr. Johns, and not my father who lost their life yesterday [Wednesday]. It was unjustified and unfair that he died, and while my condolences could never begin to offer appeasement, they, along with my remorse is all I have to give.

          While my father had every right to believe what he did, by imposing those beliefs on others he robbed them of their free will. His actions have taken opportunities away from many people and forced decisions not expected, nor warranted, to be made that otherwise would not have been necessary.

          For the extremists who believe my father is a hero: it is imperative you understand what he did was an act of cowardice. To physically force your beliefs onto others with violence is not brave, but bullying. Doing so only serves to prove how weak those beliefs are. It is simply desperation, reminiscent of a temper tantrum when a child cannot get his way. Violence is a cop out; an easy answer for an ignorant problem.

          His actions have undermined your "movement," and strengthened the resistance against your cause. He should not be remembered as a brave man or a hero, but a coward unable to come to grips with the fact he threw his and his families lives away for an ideology that fostered sadness and anguish.

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          • Dan
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            Re: James W. von Brunn

            Tue, June 16, 2009 - 7:00 AM
            you posted this elsewhere, but it really doesn't speak to the issue of Von Brunn's political leanings. We know that his ex wife and child repudiate this evil jerk, as they should. His son's use of the "cross to bear" line is a decent indicator that the left wing father is being rebuffed by the Christian son. Von Brunn was a socialist, a left winger who feels that hitler didn't do enough. Sounds a lot like Obama's friend in the weather underground.
            • Re: James W. von Brunn

              Tue, June 16, 2009 - 7:27 AM
              Your credibility is now totally down the toilet, Dan. Nobody believes that von Brunn is anywhere near being on the left in any way. But coming from someone who actually believes that jesus is lord it is not suprising.
              • Dan
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                Re: James W. von Brunn

                Tue, June 16, 2009 - 8:04 AM
                "Your credibility is now totally down the toilet, Dan."

                Well, I am glad to know that I had credibility with you prior to this post Humm.!

                "Nobody believes that von Brunn is anywhere near being on the left in any way."

                Really? No one? So if I can show one person besides me that believes Von Brunn is a left winger your statement will be nullified and I will have regained my credibility? Ok here is one:

                www.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx

                "But coming from someone who actually believes that jesus is lord it is not suprising."

                Well, you an athiest, are among 2% of the population of my country and I, a Christian, am among 80-90%. It really matters very little what you think on this or any other subject.
            • Dan
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              Re: James W. von Brunn - A left Wingnut

              Tue, June 16, 2009 - 8:10 AM
              For those who are following along, my contention is that Von Brunn was a left wing fruit cake, as opposed to a right wing fruit cake.
              The sticking point is realizing that many on the left are borrowing terms from 1940’s Europe when referring to Von Brunn's ideology. That terminology is born from an era when Nazis were one pole, and communists were the other. In the USA, however, our reference point is the Constitution and Individual rights. From THAT perspective, both communism and fascism are forms of statism = collectivism = in *USA* terms, leftwing (but not in European terms). So yes, there is no doubt that Von Brunn is left wing.
              • Re: James W. von Brunn - A left Wingnut

                Tue, June 16, 2009 - 11:21 AM
                >>For those who are following along, my contention is that Von Brunn was a left wing fruit cake, as opposed to a right wing fruit cake.<<

                I can think of a few less interesting things than your political analysis, drek, and I don't want to read anything about those from you, either. You haven't any understanding of the terms involved.

                Please go mortify your sinful flesh. God is very angry with you - the lies, the pride, the covetousness, the *false witness*, Dan. The fucking *false witness*. You're a disgrace.
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            Re: James W. von Brunn

            Fri, June 19, 2009 - 7:31 AM
            "For the extremists who believe my father is a hero: it is imperative you understand what he did was an act of cowardice. To physically force your beliefs onto others with violence is not brave, but bullying. Doing so only serves to prove how weak those beliefs are. It is simply desperation, reminiscent of a temper tantrum when a child cannot get his way. Violence is a cop out; an easy answer for an ignorant problem."

            That is .... of course .... exactly what religion has been doing .... since the beginning of religion and continuing through this very day .... using force and violence to make people adhere to a set of .... religious beliefs.

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