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It should come as no surprise that Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. was a Republican. In that era, almost all black Americans were Republicans. Why? From its founding in 1854 as the anti-slavery party until today, the Republican Party has championed freedom and civil rights for blacks. And as one pundit so succinctly stated, the Democrat Party is as it always has been, the party of the four S's: slavery, secession, segregation and now socialism.
It was the Democrats who fought to keep blacks in slavery and passed the discriminatory Black Codes and Jim Crow laws. The Democrats started the Ku Klux Klan to lynch and terrorize blacks. The Democrats fought to prevent the passage of every civil rights law beginning with the civil rights laws of the 1860s, and continuing with the civil rights laws of the 1950s and 1960s.
During the civil rights era of the 1960s, Dr. King was fighting the Democrats who stood in the school house doors, turned skin-burning fire hoses on blacks and let loose vicious dogs. It was Republican President Dwight Eisenhower who pushed to pass the Civil Rights Act of 1957 and sent troops to Arkansas to desegregate schools. President Eisenhower also appointed Chief Justice Earl Warren to the U.S. Supreme Court, which resulted in the 1954 Brown v. Board of Education decision ending school segregation. Much is made of Democrat President Harry Truman's issuing an Executive Order in 1948 to desegregate the military. Not mentioned is the fact that it was Eisenhower who actually took action to effectively end segregation in the military.
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Democrat President John F. Kennedy is lauded as a proponent of civil rights. However, Kennedy voted against the 1957 Civil Rights Act while he was a senator, as did Democrat Sen. Al Gore Sr. And after he became President, Kennedy was opposed to the 1963 March on Washington by Dr. King that was organized by A. Phillip Randolph, who was a black Republican. President Kennedy, through his brother Atty. Gen. Robert Kennedy, had Dr. King wiretapped and investigated by the FBI on suspicion of being a Communist in order to undermine Dr. King.
In March of 1968, while referring to Dr. King's leaving Memphis, Tenn., after riots broke out where a teenager was killed, Democrat Sen. Robert Byrd (W.Va.), a former member of the Ku Klux Klan, called Dr. King a "trouble-maker" who starts trouble, but runs like a coward after trouble is ignited. A few weeks later, Dr. King returned to Memphis and was assassinated on April 4, 1968.
Given the circumstances of that era, it is understandable why Dr. King was a Republican. It was the Republicans who fought to free blacks from slavery and amended the Constitution to grant blacks freedom (13th Amendment), citizenship (14th Amendment) and the right to vote (15th Amendment). Republicans passed the civil rights laws of the 1860s, including the Civil Rights Act of 1866 and the Reconstruction Act of 1867 that was designed to establish a new government system in the Democrat-controlled South, one that was fair to blacks. Republicans also started the NAACP and affirmative action with Republican President Richard Nixon's 1969 Philadelphia Plan (crafted by black Republican Art Fletcher) that set the nation's fist goals and timetables. Although affirmative action now has been turned by the Democrats into an unfair quota system, affirmative action was begun by Nixon to counter the harm caused to blacks when Democrat President Woodrow Wilson in 1912 kicked all of the blacks out of federal government jobs.
Few black Americans know that it was Republicans who founded the Historically Black Colleges and Universities. Unknown also is the fact that Republican Sen. Everett Dirksen from Illinois was key to the passage of civil rights legislation in 1957, 1960, 1964 and 1965. Not mentioned in recent media stories about extension of the 1965 Voting Rights Act is the fact that Dirksen wrote the language for the bill. Dirksen also crafted the language for the Civil Rights Act of 1968 which prohibited discrimination in housing. President Lyndon Johnson could not have achieved passage of civil rights legislation without the support of Republicans.
Critics of Republican Sen. Barry Goldwater, who ran for President against Johnson in 1964, ignore the fact that Goldwater wanted to force the Democrats in the South to stop passing discriminatory laws and thus end the need to continuously enact federal civil rights legislation.
Those who wrongly criticize Goldwater also ignore the fact that Johnson, in his 4,500 State of the Union Address delivered on Jan. 4, 1965, mentioned scores of topics for federal action, but only 35 words were devoted to civil rights. He did not mention one word about voting rights. Then in 1967, showing his anger with Dr. King's protest against the Vietnam War, Johnson referred to Dr. King as "that Nigger preacher."
Contrary to the false assertions by Democrats, the racist "Dixiecrats" did not all migrate to the Republican Party. "Dixiecrats" declared that they would rather vote for a "yellow dog" than vote for a Republican because the Republican Party was know as the party for blacks. Today, some of those "Dixiecrats" continue their political careers as Democrats, including Robert Byrd, who is well known for having been a "Keagle" in the Ku Klux Klan.
Another former "Dixiecrat" is former Democrat Sen. Ernest Hollings, who put up the Confederate flag over the state Capitol when he was the governor of South Carolina. There was no public outcry when Democrat Sen. Christopher Dodd praised Byrd as someone who would have been "a great senator for any moment," including the Civil War. Yet Democrats denounced then-Senate GOP leader Trent Lott for his remarks about Sen. Strom Thurmond (R.-S.C.). Thurmond was never in the Ku Klux Klan and defended blacks against lynching and the discriminatory poll taxes imposed on blacks by Democrats. If Byrd and Thurmond were alive during the Civil War, and Byrd had his way, Thurmond would have been lynched.
The 30-year odyssey of the South switching to the Republican Party began in the 1970s with President Richard Nixon's "Southern Strategy," which was an effort on the part of Nixon to get Christians in the South to stop voting for Democrats who did not share their values and were still discriminating against their fellow Christians who happened to be black. Georgia did not switch until 2002, and some Southern states, including Louisiana, are still controlled by Democrats.
Today, Democrats, in pursuit of their socialist agenda, are fighting to keep blacks poor, angry and voting for Democrats. Examples of how egregiously Democrats act to keep blacks in poverty are numerous.
After wrongly convincing black Americans that a minimum wage increase was a good thing, the Democrats on August 3 kept their promise and killed the minimum wage bill passed by House Republicans on July 29. The blockage of the minimum wage bill was the second time in as many years that Democrats stuck a legislative finger in the eye of black Americans. Senate Democrats on April 1, 2004, blocked passage of a bill to renew the 1996 welfare reform law that was pushed by Republicans and vetoed twice by President Clinton before he finally signed it. Since the welfare reform law expired in September 2002, Congress had passed six extensions, and the latest expired on June 30, 2004. Opposed by the Democrats are school choice opportunity scholarships that would help black children get out of failing schools and Social Security reform, even though blacks on average lose $10,000 in the current system because of a shorter life expectancy than whites (72.2 years for blacks vs. 77.5 years for whites).
Democrats have been running our inner-cities for the past 30 to 40 years, and blacks are still complaining about the same problems. More than $7 trillion dollars have been spent on poverty programs since Lyndon Johnson's War on Poverty with little, if any, impact on poverty. Diabolically, every election cycle, Democrats blame Republicans for the deplorable conditions in the inner-cities, then incite blacks to cast a protest vote against Republicans.
In order to break the Democrats' stranglehold on the black vote and free black Americans from the Democrat Party's economic plantation, we must shed the light of truth on the Democrats. We must demonstrate that the Democrat Party policies of socialism and dependency on government handouts offer the pathway to poverty, while Republican Party principles of hard work, personal responsibility, getting a good education and ownership of homes and small businesses offer the pathway to prosperity.
It was the Democrats who fought to keep blacks in slavery and passed the discriminatory Black Codes and Jim Crow laws. The Democrats started the Ku Klux Klan to lynch and terrorize blacks. The Democrats fought to prevent the passage of every civil rights law beginning with the civil rights laws of the 1860s, and continuing with the civil rights laws of the 1950s and 1960s.
During the civil rights era of the 1960s, Dr. King was fighting the Democrats who stood in the school house doors, turned skin-burning fire hoses on blacks and let loose vicious dogs. It was Republican President Dwight Eisenhower who pushed to pass the Civil Rights Act of 1957 and sent troops to Arkansas to desegregate schools. President Eisenhower also appointed Chief Justice Earl Warren to the U.S. Supreme Court, which resulted in the 1954 Brown v. Board of Education decision ending school segregation. Much is made of Democrat President Harry Truman's issuing an Executive Order in 1948 to desegregate the military. Not mentioned is the fact that it was Eisenhower who actually took action to effectively end segregation in the military.
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Democrat President John F. Kennedy is lauded as a proponent of civil rights. However, Kennedy voted against the 1957 Civil Rights Act while he was a senator, as did Democrat Sen. Al Gore Sr. And after he became President, Kennedy was opposed to the 1963 March on Washington by Dr. King that was organized by A. Phillip Randolph, who was a black Republican. President Kennedy, through his brother Atty. Gen. Robert Kennedy, had Dr. King wiretapped and investigated by the FBI on suspicion of being a Communist in order to undermine Dr. King.
In March of 1968, while referring to Dr. King's leaving Memphis, Tenn., after riots broke out where a teenager was killed, Democrat Sen. Robert Byrd (W.Va.), a former member of the Ku Klux Klan, called Dr. King a "trouble-maker" who starts trouble, but runs like a coward after trouble is ignited. A few weeks later, Dr. King returned to Memphis and was assassinated on April 4, 1968.
Given the circumstances of that era, it is understandable why Dr. King was a Republican. It was the Republicans who fought to free blacks from slavery and amended the Constitution to grant blacks freedom (13th Amendment), citizenship (14th Amendment) and the right to vote (15th Amendment). Republicans passed the civil rights laws of the 1860s, including the Civil Rights Act of 1866 and the Reconstruction Act of 1867 that was designed to establish a new government system in the Democrat-controlled South, one that was fair to blacks. Republicans also started the NAACP and affirmative action with Republican President Richard Nixon's 1969 Philadelphia Plan (crafted by black Republican Art Fletcher) that set the nation's fist goals and timetables. Although affirmative action now has been turned by the Democrats into an unfair quota system, affirmative action was begun by Nixon to counter the harm caused to blacks when Democrat President Woodrow Wilson in 1912 kicked all of the blacks out of federal government jobs.
Few black Americans know that it was Republicans who founded the Historically Black Colleges and Universities. Unknown also is the fact that Republican Sen. Everett Dirksen from Illinois was key to the passage of civil rights legislation in 1957, 1960, 1964 and 1965. Not mentioned in recent media stories about extension of the 1965 Voting Rights Act is the fact that Dirksen wrote the language for the bill. Dirksen also crafted the language for the Civil Rights Act of 1968 which prohibited discrimination in housing. President Lyndon Johnson could not have achieved passage of civil rights legislation without the support of Republicans.
Critics of Republican Sen. Barry Goldwater, who ran for President against Johnson in 1964, ignore the fact that Goldwater wanted to force the Democrats in the South to stop passing discriminatory laws and thus end the need to continuously enact federal civil rights legislation.
Those who wrongly criticize Goldwater also ignore the fact that Johnson, in his 4,500 State of the Union Address delivered on Jan. 4, 1965, mentioned scores of topics for federal action, but only 35 words were devoted to civil rights. He did not mention one word about voting rights. Then in 1967, showing his anger with Dr. King's protest against the Vietnam War, Johnson referred to Dr. King as "that Nigger preacher."
Contrary to the false assertions by Democrats, the racist "Dixiecrats" did not all migrate to the Republican Party. "Dixiecrats" declared that they would rather vote for a "yellow dog" than vote for a Republican because the Republican Party was know as the party for blacks. Today, some of those "Dixiecrats" continue their political careers as Democrats, including Robert Byrd, who is well known for having been a "Keagle" in the Ku Klux Klan.
Another former "Dixiecrat" is former Democrat Sen. Ernest Hollings, who put up the Confederate flag over the state Capitol when he was the governor of South Carolina. There was no public outcry when Democrat Sen. Christopher Dodd praised Byrd as someone who would have been "a great senator for any moment," including the Civil War. Yet Democrats denounced then-Senate GOP leader Trent Lott for his remarks about Sen. Strom Thurmond (R.-S.C.). Thurmond was never in the Ku Klux Klan and defended blacks against lynching and the discriminatory poll taxes imposed on blacks by Democrats. If Byrd and Thurmond were alive during the Civil War, and Byrd had his way, Thurmond would have been lynched.
The 30-year odyssey of the South switching to the Republican Party began in the 1970s with President Richard Nixon's "Southern Strategy," which was an effort on the part of Nixon to get Christians in the South to stop voting for Democrats who did not share their values and were still discriminating against their fellow Christians who happened to be black. Georgia did not switch until 2002, and some Southern states, including Louisiana, are still controlled by Democrats.
Today, Democrats, in pursuit of their socialist agenda, are fighting to keep blacks poor, angry and voting for Democrats. Examples of how egregiously Democrats act to keep blacks in poverty are numerous.
After wrongly convincing black Americans that a minimum wage increase was a good thing, the Democrats on August 3 kept their promise and killed the minimum wage bill passed by House Republicans on July 29. The blockage of the minimum wage bill was the second time in as many years that Democrats stuck a legislative finger in the eye of black Americans. Senate Democrats on April 1, 2004, blocked passage of a bill to renew the 1996 welfare reform law that was pushed by Republicans and vetoed twice by President Clinton before he finally signed it. Since the welfare reform law expired in September 2002, Congress had passed six extensions, and the latest expired on June 30, 2004. Opposed by the Democrats are school choice opportunity scholarships that would help black children get out of failing schools and Social Security reform, even though blacks on average lose $10,000 in the current system because of a shorter life expectancy than whites (72.2 years for blacks vs. 77.5 years for whites).
Democrats have been running our inner-cities for the past 30 to 40 years, and blacks are still complaining about the same problems. More than $7 trillion dollars have been spent on poverty programs since Lyndon Johnson's War on Poverty with little, if any, impact on poverty. Diabolically, every election cycle, Democrats blame Republicans for the deplorable conditions in the inner-cities, then incite blacks to cast a protest vote against Republicans.
In order to break the Democrats' stranglehold on the black vote and free black Americans from the Democrat Party's economic plantation, we must shed the light of truth on the Democrats. We must demonstrate that the Democrat Party policies of socialism and dependency on government handouts offer the pathway to poverty, while Republican Party principles of hard work, personal responsibility, getting a good education and ownership of homes and small businesses offer the pathway to prosperity.
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Re: Martin Luther King was a Republican!
Fri, September 19, 2008 - 5:19 PMwww.nationalblackrepublicans.com/i...fm
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Re: Martin Luther King was a Republican!
Fri, September 19, 2008 - 5:27 PMI fail to see what you are trying to sell, but that may be because I lost interest after the title
of the copied discourse. Hi Wendy, I believe we met in Crossroads of Religion.
First off, without looking at the veracity of your claims, I must say that it may be likely that what you
state could be correct. But that is not the point.
Point is (having barely glanced at the content of your C&P'ed message) that parties change,
and people themselves die, eras morph into the next eras, and what was one party at one time
is not synonymous with the selfsame named party at a later date. Why did most Democrats
become Republicans sometime during the life of our noted Martin Luther King, Jr.?
I might write more here, but I am in a very foul mood right now.
Why are you bothering to copy and paste these recordings?
Who is it you hope to convince?
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Fri, September 19, 2008 - 5:28 PMAnd BTW, $adTargeting.getAd($ad_viewerdata, $!ad_viewcontext)
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Re: Martin Luther King was a Republican!
Fri, September 19, 2008 - 5:28 PMTeddy Roosevelt said what? (Time to play at riddles...)
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Fri, September 19, 2008 - 5:36 PMFirst off, it looks as if you were trying to embed an ad, but I can't tell because it just says something is blocked.
Second off, you can't justifiably comment until you actually read the post and watch the video put out by family of MLK. Then you will have something worthy of saying.
You see, the point of me placing this was too see how many people would whine and complain and attack me personally because they cannot handle the fact that the Republicans are FOR protecting minorities and providing them the means to be productive and proud members of our society, whereas the Democrats want to continue to subjigate them, keep them dependent on government subsidies, and continue to enslave them them through whatever political means they can, including convincing blacks and other minorities that aborting their fetuses is desirable. Planned Parenthood is a racist organization built upon the principles of ridding America of the unwanted blacks and immigrants through eugenics and to use birth control to create a super race of whites. Don't believe me? Do some research. Planned Parenthood owns Obama who tries to align himself to MLK. Obama doesn't stand for any of the ideals MLK stood for.
But I give it less than one day before haters and liars will be in here spewing vitriol and hatred towards me personally because they cannot handle the truth, and because they cannot handle anyone disagreeing with them. It's sad, but, the facts hurt. Obama does not represent anything MLK stood for. The democrats do not represent anything that MLK stood for. Minorities have bought into the Democrat lie and they will reap those rewards in continued slavery through economic means, at the hands of the Democrats. -
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Fri, September 19, 2008 - 5:37 PMAnd you are a prime example of the people I am talking about. You attack me personally instead of talking about the issues. That is really pathetic and says a lot about your character. -
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Fri, September 19, 2008 - 6:45 PM"And you are a prime example of the people I am talking about."
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Re: Martin Luther King was a Republican!
Fri, September 19, 2008 - 6:48 PM"You people" I say to myself.
What is my answer?
I'm gonna wrap this up in a tidy bundle, and it will blow your mind.
Or maybe not. Maybe I will just not bother.
Maybe I will let information rot, and "you people" can burn a pile of books
and dance around it. While keeping your "one book" for a time. Then that rots,
then back to barbarity.
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Re: Martin Luther King was a Republican!
Fri, September 19, 2008 - 5:33 PMIn all truth the fact remains that most people look at politics as if the two central beasts are
'pairs of opposites', complete opposites IOW locking in a battle to the death, and in all sense
of shame the people involved being as selfish as they are wont to be have made it so,
and all the rest of us sane folk look on sickened in sorrow. That is the Reality of the Rulers...
or the delusion of those who want to rule this wasteland, or *by ruling* create this wasteland,
or *by ruling without an ounce of scruples* create this wasteland.
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Re: Martin Luther King was a Republican!
Fri, September 19, 2008 - 5:37 PMNow for the big guns. The spetsnatz, or whatever...
What is a system that creates life to kill it?
What would a cyclic nature be if it got to a larger scale, say a civilization,
then decided, out of its shameful wickedness and self-interest, to not only
kill itself, but everything else on its world, including all the lifefo0rms,
which took (LEGIMATELY!!!!) billions of years to 'create' (there, lacklustre
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Fri, September 19, 2008 - 5:41 PMSorry, talking around you... excuse me, Miss....
anyways, what would a civilization be that decided through its misuse of God's creation
to destroy itself OVER AND OVER?
Shall I proceed?
Look deep into your inner self and tell me whether you and the world
are ready to hear what I could tell you, then continue developing your thread...
IOW, *WHY* did atlantis or Noah's age die?
Why did the world change so much?
Was it God's will, or did we destroy the world
through our misuse?
HOW MANY TIMES HAVE WE DONE SO?
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Re: Martin Luther King was a Republican!
Fri, September 19, 2008 - 5:42 PMWendy, did you write that post?
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Re: Martin Luther King was a Republican!
Fri, September 19, 2008 - 6:00 PMSo, has history changed? Or is this just political tripe?
Was Mlk a repub, or a demo? Does it matter?
Is it even worth discussing?
Wendy, what's the difference between Monotheism and Paganism/Pantheism?
Unity~~~~~~ Separation.
Sins separate you from God.
Viceful actions separate you from God.
Shall I research MLK now?
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Re: Martin Luther King was a Republican!
Fri, September 19, 2008 - 6:01 PMHow many times has God stepped back into the timestream of humanity's world here?
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Re: Martin Luther King was a Republican!
Fri, September 19, 2008 - 6:03 PMWhat the use of the rest of the universe if you're not going to use it?
Just implode... it's OK... but it's been done before!
Just letting you know...
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Fri, September 19, 2008 - 6:53 PMMLK, can we buy your vote?
Can we assign you a political party after your death,
no matter how or for whom you voted in life, and thereby
cause others to come to our side. MLK, life is nearly extinguished
on this planet, but we want to lie and obfuscate your life choices
so we can win an election. You don't mind, do you?
MLK, I bet you knew who the 'good ole boys' were back then, didn't you?
MLK, what is a 'Reagan Democrat'? He's laughing....
MLK, do you see life here on this planet progressing one more tiny step?
(Looking into John Dee's mystic orb...)
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Re: Martin Luther King was a Republican!
Fri, September 19, 2008 - 6:58 PMWhile on the point of separation, what is Satan/The Adversary/Lucifer/Th(a)umiel/ any other names in existence,
going back some ways? Is he the *idea* of separation? Why is that bad? Have we blamed him for *our* separation?
Can you say, 'scapegoat'?
We all have a tree in the microcosm, people.
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Re: Martin Luther King was a Republican!
Fri, September 19, 2008 - 6:59 PMWhat are we all 'feeding', people?
What do our thoughts, our actions, our deeds, 'feed'?
Why did God ask us all to be properly married and thereby
'balance our forces'?
Who were the 'Kings of Unbalanced Force'?
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Re: Martin Luther King was a Republican!
Fri, September 19, 2008 - 8:47 PMAnyone want to discuss the Christ/Anti-Christ paradigm?
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Re: Martin Luther King was a Republican!
Fri, September 19, 2008 - 9:01 PMWow, way to completely avoid talking about the issue!
BWAHAHAHAA! You are one weird individual.
"you are a prime example"
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Re: Martin Luther King was a Republican!
Fri, September 19, 2008 - 11:26 PMInto the hellhole, then?
I thought you said you were a Christian....
Be careful which thoughts you idealize.
I can see you have not processed this information.
I could not care what you believe, at this point.
Do my beliefs matter to you?
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Re: Martin Luther King was a Republican!
Fri, September 19, 2008 - 11:30 PMWendy, think about this..... what does Revelations say, and do you believe it, literally?
If so......
Divide and Conquer...
You wish to accuse, and bend the truth?
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Re: Martin Luther King was a Republican!
Fri, September 19, 2008 - 11:32 PMThere is... a big delete button is the sky...
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Re: Martin Luther King was a Republican!
Fri, September 19, 2008 - 11:43 PMWendy, I only joined this tribe to argue with you.
Can you believe that?
And I am bored. There is no headway.
You are not processing.
Or you are not who you say you are.
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Sat, September 20, 2008 - 2:01 AMBWAHAHAAHAHHA!
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Sat, September 20, 2008 - 8:22 AMWhats your point? So what if Martin Luther King is a Republican? Back then the republican party had a soul and congress was saturated with racist Southern Democrats. Today's republicans have no relation to people like Martin Luther King and Abraham Lincoln wouldnt even recognize his own party. Case in point is that when asked who they admire the neo-republicans always bring up Ronald Reagan. Ronald Reagan was the father of modern republican thinking and certainly the best of them.(It certainly has been all downhill from there.) Democrats are more then likely to say Lincoln then John F Kennedy. Obama uses Lincoln quotes in many speeches. The last time heard a republican use Lincoln's name was Palin when she tried to blame her "Its Gods will to fight in Iraq" speech on him. The old republicans would have at least run the new ones out of office, if not tarred and feathered them besides. -
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Sat, September 20, 2008 - 10:03 AMObama: (in horribly bad Reverend Voice) I have a dreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeam!
When Obama tries to hijack MLK's name and speech.
When Obama adopts that ridiculous preacher voice during his "I have a dreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeam speech.
When Obama attempts to make people think MLK would have been on HIS side.
That's when I have to remind people that MLK was a Republican, and did not and would not stand for the likes of Obama.
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Re: Martin Luther King was a Republican!
Sat, September 20, 2008 - 11:06 AMUs..... and them....
Wendy, what is the golden rule?
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Sat, September 20, 2008 - 9:29 AMAgain with that. OK, accuse some more. Go ahead.
Wendy, go ahead and ask the moderator to delete my posts.
I'm entirely all right with that, and I am sorry for inconveniencing you.
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Re: Martin Luther King was a Republican!
Sat, September 20, 2008 - 10:33 AMChuck Hagel is not the issue.
Obama trying to use MLK for his campaign is the issue. Just listen to MLK's own family talk about him being Republican. It's sad that a freak like Obama could possibly think he could use MLK to further his agenda.
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Sat, September 20, 2008 - 11:07 AM"further his agenda"
What is his agenda, Wendy?
Want to make this thread over a thousand posts?
I think you have the energy.
What afterlife will Christ give you, Wendy?
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Sat, September 20, 2008 - 11:52 AMThere is some movement on the web, or at least on tribe, from conservatives to try to flip the script and get away from being perceived as a party of racists, which they have been perceived as since Nixon co-opted the dixiecrats by offering to not enforce civil rights laws in the south.
I've seen conservative authors try it in various ways, where it falls apart is their failure to acknowledge their own complicity, usually. Looks like no exception here. Election year, I guess I'm not surprised. I'll have to tune in to the rightie radio and see if its coming from ninnies like Rush, or what, but its coming from several corners. It usually involves blaming Dems for things currently ascribed to Reps. Either they are getting sick of hearing it, or are just trying to create confusion as a marketing blitz, screw up the black vote, etc. Not sure what it is. Its kinda all they have at the moment.
"In order to break the Democrats' stranglehold on the black vote and free black Americans from the Democrat Party's economic plantation, we must shed the light of truth on the Democrats. We must demonstrate that the Democrat Party policies of socialism and dependency on government handouts offer the pathway to poverty, while Republican Party principles of hard work, personal responsibility, getting a good education and ownership of homes and small businesses offer the pathway to prosperity. "
Really says it all. Completely contrary to reality. Dems as socialists is an emerging meme, more extremist language, perpetuating the culture war. Everyone knows socialism is a done deal. Hard work, personal responsibility are myths, as they presuppose an equal ability on the part of each person to monetize themselves, and an equal desire to do so on everyone's part. Getting a good education is the height of arrogance and nonsense, because the poor have no ability to AFFORD this education without, guess what, a LOAN. Nor can they own homes, or small businesses without bank loans to start them up. Guess who owns the banks? Can't have the government handing out what could be loaned, tsk tsk! That cuts in to profit margins. Its hallucinatory mythology that at best indicates a complete lack of touch with reality spoken from an ivory tower, or at worst indicates a deliberate decpetion of people towards a goal solely beneficial to themselves, for when social programs are cut, that money typically goes towards their pockets instead.
Sorta like the lie that deregulation is somehow good. And now we own their asses. They'll pay us back with more sub-prime loans no doubt....idiots.
Total specious horseshit, that they either buy whole cloth because it hasn't worked against them yet, or a deliberate attempt to trick people into working against their own interests. Either way, it's not reflective of the real world,and its noise not worthy of giving ear to. The welfare state wouldn't be necessary if it was easier to survive. Obviously if you have lots of poor people, the means of survival are beyond their ability to attain more easily. The length someone would have to go to to live as a republican such as the OP would have us live is not within the grasp of the average person, but they cling to the myth of the immigrant who did it, so if they can you can too, and if you can't you are lazy. Sounds like a lack of critical thinking skills to me.
At this point, the above looks like a way to try to shake up the black vote. Just like they are trying to steal the women's vote, and shake loose anyone they can from Obama. If you see it next year, you can buy in, but this year, ignore, delete, move on. Total horse crap. -
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Re: Martin Luther King was a Republican!
Sat, September 20, 2008 - 11:54 AMThen again, most of America are idiots, so maybe it has a chance of working. Carry on. -
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Re: Martin Luther King was a Republican!
Sat, September 20, 2008 - 12:08 PMBWAHAHAHAHAHAAH!
The Democrats gave us the Jim Crow laws.
The Democrats fought for slavery and then for segregation.
The Democrats want to keep non-whites in their place. It is far easier to control a people when you can keep them poor. That is how all these third world countries do it. They keep the populace unarmed and hungry. The Democrats want us unarmed, and they want the minorities hungry. Keep em poor, tell em we'll answer all their prayers, give them a tid bit now and then, but keep em votin'! Yeah for Democrats!
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Re: Martin Luther King was a Republican!
Sat, September 20, 2008 - 12:46 PMI don't care what the topic is. The topic is the moment. Will it end?
What do you really want, Wendy?
Everybody wants something.
OK, as to the discuss, let's abolish both parties and go with Green and Libertarian.
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Re: Martin Luther King was a Republican!
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Sat, September 20, 2008 - 12:54 PMReally man, seriously!
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Re: Martin Luther King was a Republican!
Sat, September 20, 2008 - 3:18 PMHey, Wendy. Are you a racist? -
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Re: Martin Luther King was a Republican!
Sat, September 20, 2008 - 7:49 PMBWAAAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHA!
That's rich! BWAHAAAHAAHAAA!
Please, keep it going!
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Re: Martin Luther King was a Republican!
Sat, September 20, 2008 - 5:54 PMThis is not helping. This was not the right place to do this. Sorry Wendy.
The differences betweeen who we are are too great. This is a particular occurrence
here on tribe. You have a predominant user base that is radically different in their
belief systems than the standard religious types that might want to come here to debate
them. Why do you want to debate the liberal, permissive left? Why would Dan?
What is to be gained? Apparently deep in your hearts, even deep in our left-leaning
hearts, we know it is true, that it could be worthwhile, if we could only reduce the rancor.
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Re: Martin Luther King was a Republican!
Sat, September 20, 2008 - 11:56 PMPrecisely what I'm talking about Wendy. Use two bits of history to support a completely erronious and utterly unprovable conclusion about Democrats. Worst series of bullshit I've seen dribble from the mouths of backwards talking shit jockeys in awhile now, but if lies are the new truth, lets rhumba sweets. I can make shit up too. *ahem*
Republicans are from Altair 6 and want to suck our souls out through bendy straws.
See how easy that is? Just as much paranoid fantasy as you are proclaiming.
Specious horsecrap. MLK is irrelevant to the attempt you are undertaking, which is complete anti-liberal bigotry. Cram it in your uneducated cram hole. The history of the democratic part has no bearing on its present form, just as the history of the republican party bears no resemblence to the group its become. Sorry to step outside your attempt at manipulating the feeble minded, but some of us have a bit more sense than you it seems. The reality is and will remain that after Nixon, the same Democrats you villify switched parties to YOURS. Any more senseless garbage you'd like to espouse? Oh, and a heart BWAAHAHA to you too, for being an idiot with no understanding of history or your own party. Tell your horseshit walking, toots. No one wants to hear you play mix n match with history, except more of your brain dead ilk. Who gives one flying fuck if MLK was Republican, Democrat or Google-eyed Marsman.
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And one more thing, you atrocious skank
Sun, September 21, 2008 - 12:06 AMen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dixiecrat
Thanks for playing spin the bottle with the trith darlin' but lets talk Dixiecrats for a moment.
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The States' Rights Democratic Party (commonly known as the Dixiecrats) was a segregationist, socially conservative political party in the United States. The term Dixiecrat is a portmanteau of Dixie, referring to the Southern United States, and Democrat, referring to the United States Democratic Party. It split with the Democratic Party in the mid-20th century determined to protect what they saw as the Southern way of life against an oppressive federal government.[1]
In the period following the Civil War, Reconstruction took place. The Union Army occupied the states of the former Confederacy, enforcing federal law protecting the rights of blacks, many of whom were freed slaves. Reconstruction abruptly ended in 1877, obliterating many of the gains that had been made in securing political and civil rights for blacks. When Reconstruction ended, the so-called "Redemption" occurred, disenfranchisement began anew, and the region gave its political allegiance almost entirely to the Democratic Party, giving it the name the "Solid South."
In the 1930s, after the New Deal under Franklin Delano Roosevelt, a realignment occurred. Much of the Democratic Party shifted towards economic intervention and support for civil rights and liberties. After the crises of the Great Depression, World War II, and the beginning of the Cold War, Southern Democrats began to drift from the mainstream of the party. The formation of the Dixiecrat movement heralded an end to the New Deal coalition. For more than a century, white Southerners had overwhelmingly been Democrats, but in 1948 many bolted from the party, angered by Harry Truman's efforts to abolish or ameliorate the effects of racial segregation, and supported Strom Thurmond's third-party candidacy for president.
Over the next several decades, as the white South slowly realigned from the Democrats to the Republicans, the term came to have a broader usage. For example, it was used to refer to those members of the Electoral College who voted for Harry F. Byrd rather than John F. Kennedy in the 1960 election, and to the white Southern voters and electors who supported George C. Wallace in 1968.
The States' Rights Democratic Party was a short-lived splinter group that broke from the Democratic Party in 1948. The States' Rights Democratic Party opposed racial integration and wanted to retain Jim Crow laws and racial segregation. The party's slogan was "Segregation Forever!" Members of the States' Rights Democratic Party were often known as Dixiecrats.
During the 1948 Democratic National Convention, Southern delegates were upset by President Harry S. Truman's executive order to racially integrate the armed forces. The Mayor of Minneapolis, Minnesota Hubert Humphrey gave a speech urging the party to adopt an anti-segregationist plank, causing thirty five delegates from Mississippi and Alabama to walk out. When President Truman endorsed the civil rights plank, governor of South Carolina Strom Thurmond helped organize the walkout delegates into a separate party, whose platform was ostensibly concerned with states' rights.
The Dixiecrats held their convention in Birmingham, Alabama, where they nominated Thurmond for president and Fielding L. Wright, governor of Mississippi, for vice president. Dixiecrat leaders worked to have Thurmond-Wright declared the official Democratic Party ticket in Southern states. They succeeded only in Alabama, Louisiana, Mississippi, and South Carolina. In other states, they were forced to run as a third-party ticket. These included Arkansas, whose governor-elect, Sid McMath, a young prosecutor and decorated World War II Marine veteran, vigorously supported Truman in speeches across the region, much to the consternation of the sitting governor, Benjamin Travis Laney, an ardent Thurmond supporter. Laney later used McMath's pro-Truman stance against him in the 1950 gubernatorial election, but McMath won the position handily.
Efforts by Dixiecrats to paint other Truman loyalists as turncoats generally failed, although the seeds of discontent were planted which in years to come took their toll on Southern moderates. Among these moderates was Rep. Brooks Hays of the 2nd District of Arkansas, whose efforts at reconciliation during the 1957 Little Rock School Crisis made him vulnerable to defeat in 1958 by a segregationist surrogate fielded by forces loyal to then-Governor Orval Faubus. Faubus had notoriously used the National Guard to bar entry to black pupils in defiance of a Federal court order.
On election day 1948, the Thurmond-Wright ticket carried the previously solid Democratic states of Louisiana, Mississippi, and South Carolina, as well as Alabama (whose Democratic party refused to recognize the Truman-Barkley ticket and had Thurmond on the ballot as its nominee), receiving 1,169,021 popular votes and 39 electoral votes. Henry A. Wallace drew off a nearly equal number of popular votes (1,157,172) from the Democrats' left wing, although he did not carry any states. The split in the Democratic party in the 1948 election was seen as virtually guaranteeing a victory by the Republican nominee, Thomas E. Dewey of New York, yet Truman was able to narrowly win election.
The States' Rights Democratic Party dissolved after the 1948 election, although some diehards such as Leander Perez attempted to keep it in existence.[2]
Regardless of the power struggle within the Democratic Party concerning segregation policy, the South remained a strongly Democratic voting bloc for local, state, and federal Congressional elections. This was not true of Presidential elections.
In 1960, Democratic electors in Alabama and Mississippi appeared on the ballot as "unpledged electors" instead of as electors pledged to Democratic nominee John F. Kennedy. All 8 of Mississippi's electors, 6 of Alabama's 11 electors, and one stray elector from Oklahoma (a state carried by Richard Nixon) cast their votes for Senator Harry F. Byrd of Virginia. Alabama's remaining 5 electors voted for Kennedy.
In 1968, Alabama's Democratic former governor George C. Wallace ran for President on the American Independent Party ticket, and swept the electoral votes of the Deep South. The American Independent Party failed to keep its foothold in the South. Its 1972 candidate was John G. Schmitz, a John Bircher from California, whose strongest showing in the 1972 election was 10% in Idaho, but who did poorly in the South. Subsequent southern Dixiecrats running on the American Independent Party ticket included Lester Maddox and John Rarick, but these campaigns did not succeed either.
In the 1960s, the courting of white Southern Democratic voters was the basis of the "southern strategy" of the Republican Party's Presidential Campaigns. Republican Presidential Candidate Barry Goldwater carried the Deep South in 1964, despite losing in a landslide in the rest of the nation to President Lyndon B. Johnson of Texas. Johnson surmised that his advocacy behind passing the Civil Rights Act of 1964 would lose the South for the Democratic party and it did. The only Democratic presidential candidate after 1956 to solidly carry the Deep South was President Jimmy Carter in the 1976 election.
Senator Strom Thurmond switched parties and became a Republican as a result of his support for the Barry Goldwater campaign in 1964. Jesse Helms also switched his party registration to Republican in 1970 and won a Senate seat in North Carolina in 1972. Several other Southern senators, such as Richard Russell, Jr. of Georgia and James Eastland and John Stennis of Mississippi remained in the Democratic Party. They went on to become prominent senators who served multiple terms in the service of their respective states. These long careers in the Senate elevated their seniority and put them in positions of power and prestige.
Into the late 20th century, the South changed from a Democratic monolith to a majority Republican sector of the country with GOP gains in state legislatures. This change, which became quite evident in 1972 with the electoral success of Richard Nixon's "Southern Strategy", peaked with the elections of Ronald Reagan in 1980 and George H. W. Bush in 1988. It was consolidated in 1994 when Republicans gained a majority in the House of Representatives under the leadership of Newt Gingrich.
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I don't consider myself without sin, but when I see someone inside a glass house hucking rocks at me, I kinda just have to stop and laugh. After awhile though, laughter gives way to more than a bit of disgust at how ignorant some people can be, or assume I am. Pretty soon, yeah I start chucking rocks back at the glass house just to hear the squeal when it comes down around your ears. Then I can laugh again. Hardly an honorable approach but when in Rome....
*chuck*
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www.u-s-history.com/pages/h1751.html
At the 1948 Democratic National Convention, a group led by Senator Hubert Humphrey of Minnesota proposed some controversial new civil rights planks of racial integration and the reversal of Jim Crow laws to be included in the party platform. Southern Democrats were dismayed. President Harry S. Truman was caught in the middle for his recent executive order to racially integrate the armed forces. As a compromise, he proposed the adoption of only those planks that had been in the 1944 platform. That was not enough for the liberals. Truman's own civil rights initiatives had made the civil rights debate unavoidable.
The planks were adopted and 35 southern Democrats walked out in protest. They formed the States' Rights Democratic Party, which became popularly known as the Dixiecrats. Their campaign slogan was “Segregation Forever!” Their platform also included “states’ rights” to freedom from governmental interference in an individual's or organization's prerogative to do business with whomever they wanted.
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Re: And one more thing, you atrocious skank
Sun, September 21, 2008 - 8:22 AMThat's when I have to remind people that MLK was a Republican, and did not and would not stand for the likes of Obama.
Again you prove to be a moron.
"And Dragon, you have no concept of what Palin was talking about and there is no use trying to explain it to you.
This may come as a surprise Wendy, but one does not actually have to be retarded to understand what Palin is saying. You must be one of those "special needs" people Palin talks so much about.
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Gotcha!
Sun, September 21, 2008 - 2:20 PMBAWAAHAAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHA!
Oh man, this is great. I am keeping all these responses in a file so whenever I need a good laugh, I can just pull this up. BWAHAAHAHHAHAAAHA!
Keep going, please.
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Democrats started the KKK
Sun, September 21, 2008 - 11:42 PMI thought the KKK was started by rich plantation owners?
I thought they offered a higher status (knighthood) to those poor whites who were also slaves to join up. I thought they did so because they had no labor, and if blacks were to get 40 acres and a mule, many poor whites would rather work for blacks who were fairer.
In fact, I thought that during the gray area during reconstruction, many plantations were abandoned, used by groups of poor whites and blacks who cooperated together. It would thus then have been in the best interest of the plantation owners to establish something that would protect their interests by utilizing difference and supremacy, and thus the KKK was born.
With this into consideration, yes many Democrats were the opposite of the Republicans who freed the slaves. However, it was not the Democrats who started the KKK, it was rich plantation owners, who were indeed democrats.
As for KIng? Did he ever Vote Republican?
I always wondered if he was given that right?
During the Civil Rights movement, just as many democrats were KKK during the civil war, many Republicans were KKK during and after the Civil Rights movement they remain. Some have joined other parties, but most racists tend to flock to the Redneck party.
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Re: Democrats started the KKK
Mon, September 22, 2008 - 2:07 AMNot so subtle bigotry.
The Push to ‘Otherize’ Obama
By NICHOLAS D. KRISTOF
Published: September 20, 2008
Here’s a sad monument to the sleaziness of this presidential campaign: Almost one-third of voters “know” that Barack Obama is a Muslim or believe that he could be.
In short, the political campaign to transform Mr. Obama into a Muslim is succeeding. The real loser as that happens isn’t just Mr. Obama, but our entire political process.
A Pew Research Center survey released a few days ago found that only half of Americans correctly know that Mr. Obama is a Christian. Meanwhile, 13 percent of registered voters say that he is a Muslim, compared with 12 percent in June and 10 percent in March.
More ominously, a rising share — now 16 percent — say they aren’t sure about his religion because they’ve heard “different things” about it.
When I’ve traveled around the country, particularly to my childhood home in rural Oregon, I’ve been struck by the number of people who ask something like: That Obama — is he really a Christian? Isn’t he a Muslim or something? Didn’t he take his oath of office on the Koran?
In conservative Christian circles and on Christian radio stations, there are even widespread theories that Mr. Obama just may be the Antichrist. Seriously.
John Green, of the Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life, says that about 10 percent of Americans believe we may be in the Book of Revelation’s “end times” and are on the lookout for the Antichrist. A constant barrage of e-mail and broadcasts suggest that Mr. Obama just may be it.
The online Red State Shop sells T-shirts, mugs and stickers exploiting the idea. Some shirts and stickers portray a large “O” with horns, above a caption: “The Anti-Christ.”
To his credit, Mr. McCain himself has never raised doubts about Mr. Obama’s religion. But a McCain commercial last month mimicked the words and imagery of the best-selling Christian “Left Behind” book series in ways that would have set off alarm bells among evangelicals nervous about the Antichrist.
Mr. McCain himself is not popular with evangelicals. But they will vote for him if they think the other guy may be on Satan’s side.
In fact, of course, Mr. Obama took his oath on the Bible, not — as the rumors have it — on the Koran. He is far more active in church than John McCain is.
(Just imagine for a moment if it were the black candidate in this election, rather than the white candidate, who was born in Central America, was an indifferent churchgoer, had graduated near the bottom of his university class, had dumped his first wife, had regularly displayed an explosive and profane temper, and had referred to the Pakistani-Iraqi border ...)
What is happening, I think, is this: religious prejudice is becoming a proxy for racial prejudice. In public at least, it’s not acceptable to express reservations about a candidate’s skin color, so discomfort about race is sublimated into concerns about whether Mr. Obama is sufficiently Christian.
The result is this campaign to “otherize” Mr. Obama. Nobody needs to point out that he is black, but there’s a persistent effort to exaggerate other differences, to de-Americanize him.
Raising doubts about a candidate based on the religion of his grandfather is toxic and profoundly un-American, cracking the melting pot we emerged from. Someday people will look back at the innuendoes about Mr. Obama with the same disgust with which we regard the smears of Al Smith as a Catholic candidate in 1928.
I’m writing in part out of a sense of personal responsibility. Those who suggest that Mr. Obama is a Muslim — as if that in itself were wrong — regularly cite my own columns, especially an interview last year in which I asked him about Islam and his boyhood in Indonesia. In that interview, Mr. Obama praised the Arabic call to prayer as “one of the prettiest sounds on earth at sunset,” and he repeated the opening of it.
This should surprise no one: the call to prayer blasts from mosque loudspeakers five times a day, and Mr. Obama would have had to have been deaf not to learn the words as a child. But critics, like Jerome Corsi, whose book denouncing Mr. Obama, “The Obama Nation,” is No. 2 on the New York Times best-seller list, quote from that column to argue that Mr. Obama has mysterious ties to Islam. I feel a particular obligation not to let my own writing be twisted so as to inflame bigotry and xenophobia.
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Obama may or may not be Christian, even HE can't remember!
Mon, September 22, 2008 - 4:39 AMThere are no Bibles or Korans during the oath of office. When Democrat Kieth Elison took his oath, there was no book. AFTER the oath, he posed for pictures and he and Nancy Pelosi both had their hands on the Koran for the photo. This is where the lie was started.
However, when Obama was given a sit-down interview not so long ago, he said " Well, uh uh uh, I haven't uh, heard them saying to uh uh much of my uh uh Muslim faith, and uh..."
Interviewer "you mean your Christian faith"
Obama "what? Oh, my Christian faith."
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?! That DOES lead one to be suspicious. Especially given his 'mentors' and his personal relationships with terrorists.
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Re: Democrats started the KKK
Mon, September 22, 2008 - 4:32 AMYou are misinformed.
The KKK was started by a group of civil war veterans as a social club. The plantation owners didn't want them, because they started problems and murdered blacks and furthered occupation by federal troops. Nathan Bedford Forrest was the first leader, a General, and had the title Grand Wizard. It was loosely governed and finally destroyed by Ulysses Grant. In 1915, William J. Simmons restarted the Klan and made it into a more structured organization. Now they included all disgruntled veterans who couldn't find work because of the increase in immigration. They also included Jews, Roman Catholics, and other immigrants in their hate list. They were the underground "military" force used by the Democratic party to further their desire to see blacks held back and to see their interests in white supremacy upheld. They worked to hinder education, economic advancement, voting rights, and right to keep and bear arms of blacks in southern states and launched an all out war against Republican party leaders (white and black) in the southern states.
As for MLK, read this article. It's too long for me to copy and past here.
www.nationalblackrepublicans.com/i...fm
Key points: The four S's of the Democratic party: Slavery, Secession, Segregation and now Socialism
"Kennedy voted against the 1957 Civil rights Act while he was a senator, as did Democrat Senator Al Gore, Sr. And after he became president, John F. Kennedy was opposed to the 1963 March on Washington by Dr. King" and he had King wire-tapped. -
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Re: Democrats started the KKK
Mon, September 22, 2008 - 4:38 AMSure enough. However, most of the racist Democrats are gone, or have changed their positions. You know, like that bigot McNasty and his "evolved" positions. A few, however, like Strom Thurmond defected to the newly racist GOP, where they could feel comfortable with their fellow bigots. Perhaps, had some right wing evangelical bigot not murdered him, MLK would have changed parties too. -
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Mon, September 22, 2008 - 4:40 AMBWAAHHAHAHAA!
You simply cannot handle the truth can you? You would prefer to live in ignorance!
BWAAHAHAHAAHAAAAAH!
I won't confuse you with facts anymore, Erik. I will simply laugh at you.
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Re: Democrats started the KKK
Tue, September 23, 2008 - 11:13 AMKey points: The four S's of the Democratic party: Slavery, Secession, Segregation and now Socialism
You have got to be the stupidest person alive Wendy I swear.
Read the history of the Dixiecrats will you please? Those folks left the democrats when the democrats adopted CIVIL RIGHTS PLANKS.
Where did they go?
THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.
They left because of Nixon's souther strategy. Read the facts. I already posted the links. Bullshit debunked.
You wouldn't know socialism if it bit you in the ass either. Not that facts are important to such as you. You either believe this specious horsecrap whole hog, in which case you are an incurable sheep, or you are deliberately trying to muddy the waters and defame a party to shake up the black vote, which makes you an ivory tower racist who is making the country that much worse every time she speaks.
From en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism
Socialism refers to a broad set of economic theories of social organization advocating state or collective ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods.[1] Modern socialism originated in the late nineteenth-century working class political movement. Karl Marx posited that socialism would be achieved via class struggle and a proletarian revolution, it being the transitional stage between capitalism and communism.[2][3]
Who are the whiney little bitches crying for a bailout? Big businesses. Who got their own dumb asses up this creek? Big Businesses.
Who did they lobby most successfully to get to this point? REPUBLICAN CONGRESS PERSONS. They whined and cried and moaned about wanting deregulation. The dems finally bent over and handed it to them on a silver platter. And now look where we are.
The bailout will create a socialist state of affairs with the banks. Who proposed that? BUSH.
Check your facts before talking lady, you'll look like less of an ignorant chooch.
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Re: Democrats started the KKK
Tue, September 23, 2008 - 12:01 PMBut lo, don't take my word for it, watch the documentary. Seems Wendy likes the fallacy of the unbounded middle.
www.youtube.com/watch
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Tue, September 23, 2008 - 3:12 PMBWAHAAAHAAAHH!
I wouldn't know socialism huh? I lived in a socialist country for ten years. I felt the sting of the high taxes and the crappy "universal" health care. I know more of which I speak than most Americans. Keep trying, your ignorance is still showing. -
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Wed, September 24, 2008 - 3:22 PMAnd I would have known this how? Damn my psychic powers...
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Re: Democrats started the KKK
Wed, September 24, 2008 - 8:58 PM"And I would have known this how? Damn my psychic powers... "
Shall I point out your previous statement?
"You wouldn't know socialism if it bit you in the ass either. Not that facts are important to such as you."
You are quick to assume what I do not know, without facts. Is it any surprise that you will fight to the death your misinformation and outright lies? Is it any surprise that you will "oh poor me" yourself when I call you out on ASSUMING that I don't know what I am talking about?
Not really. Not after seeing how you "debate".
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Thu, September 25, 2008 - 1:52 PMShall I point out your previous statement?
No dummy, I was referring to y ou having lived with socialists.
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"You wouldn't know socialism if it bit you in the ass either. Not that facts are important to such as you."
You are quick to assume what I do not know, without facts. Is it any surprise that you will fight to the death your misinformation and outright lies? Is it any surprise that you will "oh poor me" yourself when I call you out on ASSUMING that I don't know what I am talking about?
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When you misuse facts, selectively picking ones that prove your point while ignoring others, that's what I call you ignoring facts. Show me my misinformation and lies. Please. I've shown you yours.
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Not really. Not after seeing how you "debate".
That is why I simply laugh at you. BWAHAAHAAHAHHAAHAHAHA!
Not so much debating as shouting you down. If you made shit for sense I would be happy to debate you, but since you selectively view facts there's not much left to do BUT shout you down. If you paid more attention, you'd find things less funny.
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Tue, September 23, 2008 - 3:18 PMThe Democrats are the party who tells blacks and other minorities that they are not capable of getting a job, a loan, a home, health care, education, or a life without governmental help. How offensive is that? But then, maybe you BELIEVE that too! It's nice to know you support the party who thinks blacks and other minorities are basically unable to think, comprehend, work, or live on their own power. Good for you!
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Re: Democrats started the KKK
Wed, September 24, 2008 - 3:24 PMDemocrats *tell* them? Back up your crap, yappy. Show me where. Keep lying, you suck at it, so it keeps you looking like an idiot.
Revisionist historians. Always good for a laugh. Do you deny the holocaust too?
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Martin Luther King was a Black Republican!
Mon, September 22, 2008 - 10:42 PMwww.nationalblackrepublicans.com/i...fm
You are misinformed.
any questions?
Did Martin ever vote for the Republican party? just wondering.
now that we are on the issue of voting. Did you know that John McCain voted against the Martin Luther King Holiday.
as for the KKK I don't know who started it, because I was not there.
but, I will have faith in my belief over yours, unless you can come up with a better argument.
<A few, however, like Strom Thurmond defected to the newly racist GOP, where they could feel comfortable with their fellow bigots.>
This is a very good point
I need to reiterate that I did not say that racists were not in the Democratic party. I stated that rich plantation owners who had a vested interest in whites and blacks not working together were responsible for the terrorist organization.
I am sure that they used tactics, to get "disgruntled veterans who couldn't find work because of the increase in immigration." (and others), like using difference as a means of empowering hate to prevent whites and blacks from working together.
Did you know that blacks were not the only slaves. Poor people were kidnapped from Europe. They were cheated into contracts of indentured servitude. They worked and lived alongside blacks, though in better conditions. Originally blacks too were indentured servants, but the greedy plantation owners realized that they profit more when their labor is their property. Thus a "difference" was established. They still treated the whites like shit too, but not as bad.
Think to yourself what would happen if you not only loose your free labor, but your indentured labor. And these motherfuckers get 40 acres and a mule.
It dramatically changes the social framework of America, from one with few elites, to one with many entrepreneurs. It also establishes a broader circulation of capital.
Considering this, one can see how the ideologies of the parties have changed quite a bit.
We all know that this plan was not only killed by the KKK, but by greedy politicians.
<I won't confuse you with facts>
It is good to know that you are the holder of truth. I am truly humbled. I like the history of the KKK, and the information about the "Founders"
here are some interesting facts too:
Jesse Helms
Strom Thurmond
Nathan Bedford Forrest was quoted on the House floor by Republican Rep. Ted Poe. To go a little further. Nathan Bedford Forrest was a slave trader before the war, he fought the war to preserve his occupation. He had a vested interest in slavery, thus also a vested interest in blacks and whites not working together.
The only reason white elites complained about the KKK was because it gave a reason for troops to remain kicking the South's As.
Many organizations serve the interests of political parties. Consider the CIA. They have continually served the interests of "certain parties". Primarily during Iran Contra, and the Assassination of Kennedy.
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Re: Martin Luther King was a Black Republican!
Thu, September 25, 2008 - 8:38 AMThe GOP and the evangelical Christian right.
Ah, the company you all keep.
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Erik calls free thinking black men and women Uncle Toms!
Thu, September 25, 2008 - 9:35 AMBWAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH!
Man you are really scraping now! How much time do you spend scouring the internet trying to find some sensational non-news story to try and throw the scent off your own filth?
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Re: Erik calls free thinking black men and women Uncle Toms!
Thu, September 25, 2008 - 1:17 PMNot difficult. All you have to do is look at the bottom of the barrel. There, you find the GOP. Witches? Ya see that video? I'm sorry, your VP candidate. You do know what they do to witches in Kenya? No? Google it. Ah, the company you keep. If you sleep with dogs, you get fleas. -
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Re: Erik calls free thinking black men and women Uncle Toms!
Thu, September 25, 2008 - 5:54 PMBWAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHHA!
Uncle Toms, Erik, Uncle Toms! -
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Re: Erik calls free thinking black men and women Uncle Toms!
Thu, September 25, 2008 - 10:31 PMYou didn't answer my question, oh superstitious one. Boo! -
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Re: Erik calls free thinking black men and women Uncle Toms!
Thu, September 25, 2008 - 11:54 PMBWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAHA!
I dare you to go down to your local new age shop and tell the proprietor, who is most likely Wiccan or similar, and tell them to their face that they don't exist!
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Re: Erik calls free thinking black men and women Uncle Toms!
Fri, September 26, 2008 - 12:53 AMHow pathetic. If money wins elections, our next president should be Chinese. -
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Re: Erik calls free thinking black men and women Uncle Toms!
Fri, September 26, 2008 - 1:20 AMWendy, your logic is flawed. The truth of the Hindu religion and that of the Islam can't, by definition, both be true. I happen to think that both are bogus, along with whatever silly superstition you follow, but that is another story. I don't deny the existence of those that call themselves whatever, I merely deny the validity of their beliefs.
Now, as far as your constant hysterical laughter goes?
There is an old saying:
When you try to speak to God, that is called praying.
When God speaks back? Schizophrenia.
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Re: Erik calls free thinking black men and women Uncle Toms!
Fri, September 26, 2008 - 2:06 AMSchizophrenia is merely a materialist viewpoint and moniker.
Things are far more complicated than that. Why would God
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Re: Erik calls free thinking black men and women Uncle Toms!
Fri, September 26, 2008 - 2:09 AMI guess we just ignore the tittering woman.
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Re: Erik calls free thinking black men and women Uncle Toms!
Fri, September 26, 2008 - 1:36 PMBWAHAAHHAHHAHAHAHH!
You just keep trying and you just keep failing.
You can't talk about the issues, you just say inane drivel.
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dude
Fri, September 26, 2008 - 11:11 PMtry not to attack people so much.
Try attacking their arguments.
BWAHAAHHAHHAHAHAHH!
BWAHAAHHAHHAHAHAHH!
BWAHAAHHAHHAHAHAHH!
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Re: dude
Fri, September 26, 2008 - 11:32 PMtry accepting the fact that this is Heated Debate, and the pogues on this thread attack me personally at ever turn. Deal with it. -
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Re: dude
Fri, September 26, 2008 - 11:36 PMNo one is attacking you Wendy. I really just chose the wrong tactics.
Where do you discuss religion, BTW?
I think it would be nice to see your perspective in a Christian room,
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Sat, September 27, 2008 - 12:19 AMTry sticking to the topic Worm. And this is heated debate not religion forum. You can discuss religion all you want, but I won't join you. -
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Sat, September 27, 2008 - 10:05 AMThat's all right. I'll work out all the problems and kinks in others' beliefs and publish them anyway. -
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Race Baiting
Tue, September 30, 2008 - 3:11 AMAs this thread actually started with typical GOP racial politics, I thought this appropriate.
By DOUG THOMPSON
August 1, 2008
Capitol Hill Blue
John McCain, a member of the House of Representatives in the mid-1980s, often held court at a table near the bar at Bullfeathers, a popular Capitol Hill watering hole, telling jokes and matching hangers-on drink by drink.
As a Capitol Hill chief of staff, I often drank at Bullfeathers and was invited to join the throng at McCain's table one evening. A few minutes listening to the racism, bigotry and homophobia of the Arizona Congressman told me all I needed to know.
McCain loved to tell jokes about lesbians, blacks, Hispanics and the Vietnamese community that occupied a large section of Arlington County, Virginia, just south of the District of Columbia.
Of course, McCain didn't use polite language in the jokes: He used names like "fags" or "queers" or "dykes" or "niggers" or "spics" or "wetbacks" or "gooks."
A typical McCain joke (overheard at Bullfeathers):
Two dykes are talking at a bar and one leaves. As she walks toward the door, the other watches her leave and says out loud: "God, I'd love to eat her out."
Two men are standing near by and one turns to the other and says: "I'd like to do the same. Guess that makes me a dyke."
Or another (also overheard at Bullfeathers):
Question: Why does Mexican beer have two "X's" on the label?
Answer: Because wetbacks always need a co-signer.
(McCain has a documented history of lesbian jokes. He's also come under fire for other jokes about rape.)
Example:
Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly?
Because Janet Reno is her father.
Another example:
Did you hear the one about the woman who is attacked on the street by a gorilla, beaten senseless, raped repeatedly and left to die? When she finally regains consciousness and tries to speak, her doctor leans over to hear her sigh contently and to feebly ask, ‘Where is that marvelous ape?’
When he ran for the Senate, I attended a gathering of GOP operatives at the National Republican Senatorial Committee where McCain outlined his campaign strategy:
I play to win. I do whatever it takes to win. If I have to fuck my opponent to win I'll do it. If I have to destroy my opponent I won't give it a second thought.
McCain's so-called sense of humor has no limits when it comes to simple human decency. Shortly after former President Ronald Reagan announced he had Alzheimer's Disease, McCain told this joke at a GOP Fundraiser:
Do you know the best thing about having Alzheimer's?
You get to hide your own Easter eggs.
Even his wife is not immune. Writes Cliff Schecter in his book, The Real John McCain:
Three reporters from Arizona, on the condition of anonymity, also let me in on another incident involving McCain's intemperateness. In his 1992 Senate bid, McCain was joined on the campaign trail by his wife, Cindy, as well as campaign aide Doug Cole and consultant Wes Gullett. At one point, Cindy playfully twirled McCain's hair and said, "You're getting a little thin up there." McCain's face reddened, and he responded, "At least I don't plaster on the makeup like a trollop, you cunt." McCain's excuse was that it had been a long day. If elected president of the United States, McCain would have many long days.
This is the man the Republican Party thinks should be the next President of the United States. What else should we expect from a party that promotes racism, homophobia and discrimination against anyone with a different skin color, sexual orientation or ethnic origin?
So we shouldn't be surprised that McCain's campaign strategy seeks to raise racial fear about Barack Obama, the first African-American with a serious shot at the Presidency of the United States.
John McCain is a racist: Always has been, always will be. A retired Naval officer who says he served with McCain in the Navy says he treated black sailors with disrespect and scorn. McCain refuses to release his detailed military record and some sources say that record includes incidents that include issues with black sailors.
Such attitudes are part of his family history. As noted by a black poster in Talking Points Memo:
I can't love America the same way John McCain does. When his daddy was Admiral, my daddy was mopping floors. And when his granddaddy was Admiral, all the Blacks in the entire Navy were mopping floors. But they still volunteered and went to war, even when their commanders didn't think they were brave enough to fight. So who loves America more? The cook on the ship who couldn't vote in 15 states, or the Admiral who dined on the meals he slaved over?
McCain's collection of off-color jokes are riddled with racist words and sentiments. Advisors have toned down the raunchy rhetoric of his early years in Congress but close aides say his attitudes have not changed.
McCain opposed making the birthday of slain civil rights leader Martin Luther King a national holiday. During his 2000 campaign for President, he told reporters on his "Straight Talk Express: "I hated the gooks (North Vietnamese). I will hate them as long as I live."
Katie Hong of the Seattle Post-Intelligencer, who reported the remark, wrote:
It is offensive because by using a racial epithet that has historically been used to demean all Asians to describe his captors, McCain failed to make a distinction between his torturers and an entire racial group.
It is alarming because a major candidate for president publicly used a racial epithet, refused to apologize for doing so and remains a legitimate contender.
For his 2000 campaign for President, McCain hired Richard Quinn, founder and editor in chief of Southern Heritage Magazine, to serve as his spokesman in South Carolina.
Notes Salon.Com:
Quinn's articles have called Nelson Mandela a "terrorist" and King a man "whose role in history was to lead his people into a perpetual dependence on the welfare state, a terrible bondage of body and soul." In another piece, Quinn said of former Ku Klux Klan leader David Duke, "What better way to reject politics as usual than to elect a maverick like David Duke?" though he did condemn Duke's bigotry.
Irwin A. Tank, author of Gook: John McCain's Racism, notes a long and sordid history of racism from the presumptive GOP nominee, including:
McCain's use of the anti-Asian slur "gook" publicly for 27 years before dropping the use for his current Presidential run;
McCain's endorsement of George Wallace Jr., a frequent speaker at white supremacist events;
His vote against establishing a holiday for Martin Luther King's birthday and then another vote to rescind the holiday.
In answering a question about divorced fathers and child support, McCain called the children "tar babies."
The list goes on and on.
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Erik, the neo-pseudo-hippie, calls free thinking black men and women Uncle Toms!
Tue, September 30, 2008 - 8:18 AMAh you see, Obama started out using the race card. Obama has always used race as a weapon. Obama is the king of "poor victimhood" until he gets called on it, then he has to backtrack (like everything else he says) and say oh no, he hasn't PERSONALLY been victimized because he's filthy rich!
THEN, Obama tried to steal MLK's legacy, and adopted that hilariously pathetic "preacher" accent and spoke an entire speech in "I have a dreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeam" speak. It really was hilarious, given that he hasn't been to seminary to learn how to talk "preacher" accent. He was trying to make himself look and literally sound like MLK. That was offensive on so many levels. MLK had a dream that one day we would be equal, that one day we would be judged by our character. MLK would not be an Obama supporter. MLK would not support eugenics and the racial Planned Parenthood. MLK would not support Affirmative Action where you get a job based on a quota because of the color of your skin and not the quality of your work.
You, who likes to call free thinking black men and women Uncle Toms, have no place to say ANYTHING about race baiting, because you are the worst type of racist. You actually believe that you AREN'T racist even though you judge free thinking black men and women who don't buy into the Democrat lie as being Uncle Toms.
You Erik, have been found wanting.
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Channeling
Tue, September 30, 2008 - 10:11 AMSo, now you are channeling MLK, eh? It would be funny if it wasn't so pathetic. -
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Erik, the neo-pseudo-hippie, calls free thinking black men and women Uncle Toms!
Tue, September 30, 2008 - 4:33 PMChanneling? Wow, you are insane.
BWAHAAHAAHHAAHAAAHAHAAH! -
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How else to explain it?
Wed, October 1, 2008 - 12:44 AMHey, you are the one who stated with certainty what a dead man would or would not have supported. Perhaps, you should ask his family instead? -
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Erik, the neo-pseudo-hippie, calls free thinking black men and women Uncle Toms!
Wed, October 1, 2008 - 2:00 AMI don't need to ask them. I watched his niece explain it. You really should watch her video. Then you wouldn't look like you do. Uninformed and all.
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Jesus Freak Wendy Channeling MLK
Wed, October 1, 2008 - 2:27 AMOh really? So, why don't you post the video for us?
As I recall, his son Martin Luther King III endorsed a Democrat. No, it wasn't Obama. Thinking freely. -
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Erik, the neo-pseudo-hippie, calls free thinking black men and women Uncle Toms!
Wed, October 1, 2008 - 10:26 AMwww.nationalblackrepublicans.com/i...fm
I posted this on the 2nd or third post, but you apparently didn't click on the link. So, before you go acting like you are superior, try actually clicking on the link that I posted in the first place.
Oh Really? So I DID post the video for you.
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Wendy the easily duped...
Thu, October 2, 2008 - 2:51 PMHoly crap. So I went and read it...Alveda King is stark raving nuts!
Did you read this one?
www.trustedpartner.com/docs/l...cle.pdf
Talk about universalizing a bad personal experience...no wonder you're talking crazy, Wendy. You are listening to crazy. She also seems to have overlooked the Dixiecrat exodus to the Republicans, instead focusing on the past, not on the present.
Digest version: She has guilt about her decision to have an abortion, seemingly oerwhelming guilt from the read of it, and struggling to come to terms with her own choice (coupled with the negative side effects and experience of the procedure) is choosing to blame and villify the providers of that service, cry conspiracy, and cast herself as a victim. What a bunch of self-serving crap. Not that there aren't things to shake stick about, but she swerved off that path fast.
It verifies MLK and MLK Jr were Republicans, which falls in the "so what" category, and that his neice suffers from the experience of not having had help with pre-abortion counseling, spousal abuse protections, and the more positive and functional mental health assistance now more widely available and effective than back in the day. Its sad, and its too late to get her to see things any more rationally. Its just too bad she's laying a personal problem off on the system and the times. For preaching forgiveness, shes not very good at doing it... -
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Erik, the neo-pseudo-hippie, calls free thinking black men and women Uncle Toms!
Thu, October 2, 2008 - 7:02 PMMalvy, you silly just like Eric! BWAAHHAAHAAHAHHAHAHA!
Go spread your subversion elsewhere, I'm not buying. Go fling your fecal matter elsewhere, we prefer clean over here. -
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No, Seriously
Fri, October 3, 2008 - 6:11 AMNo really, read it. She's bat shit crazy. If you haven't read it, you really need to. I'm not saying she's crazy for being against abortion, that's fine, but the level to which she's taken it is way over the line. Serioulsy. Read it. She describes her bad experiences, and how she feels now. Lady has problems that its too late to addresss. -
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Erik, the neo-pseudo-hippie, calls free thinking black men and women Uncle Toms!
Fri, October 3, 2008 - 1:32 PMBWAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH!
Go back and stick your head in the sand, that's where you get all your ideas anyway.
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Re: Martin Luther King was a Republican!
Thu, October 30, 2008 - 12:06 PMYeah, its odd.
It was Republicans also started national parks and championed the conservation movement. Now they want to drill for oil everywhere and do away with the EPA, and deny that global warming is happening. It may have been a Republican (Lincoln) who got us into the civil war, but even he was not clear on his feelings about the black population and slavery - however, now it is a non white man in the democratic party running for president. Republicans once battled against the corporatization of America as well, but now ALL the parties are essentially a corporation themselves.
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Re: Martin Luther King was a Republican!
Sun, November 2, 2008 - 1:32 AM
Wendy stop spreading all these LIES, King was not a Republican, and in his era he was down with JFK.
black people were responsible for wining the war and keeping the Union - it was only when the north were out of any options
they were getting beat so bad by the north that Lincoln said that black people could join the fight.
You keep posting these same articles and it's still a lie....Talk about things you know.
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Re: Martin Luther King was a Republican!
Sun, November 2, 2008 - 6:24 AMYou are mistaken. The only reason MLK endorsed Kennedy was because he had a family member in prison who needed to be rescued. Kennedy was not the blessed savior blacks think he was. He had the government spying on MLK as an enemy of the state. MLK was a Republican. His endorsement of Kennedy was his greatest mistake as so many mindless automatons immediately switched parties, instead of using their brains. Thus began the shift from the KKK-Democrats to the "We can't kill em, so let's keep em poor and on welfare, tell em we are helping them, even though we won't actually do anything" Democrats. And the black population bought it hook, line, and sinker. No, endorsing Kennedy was MLK's greatest mistake. It's why our country is so full of welfare recipients today.
I guess you agree with the Democratic party that blacks are incapable of doing anything at all unless da gubment he'p dem? Sorry, I happen to think differently. I happen to think that there are many strong and powerful black men and women who got that way without the government rolling out the red carpet and stealing my money to do it. Black Republicans wish they could help black Democrats see the facts, but they have been so brainwashed. -
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Re: Martin Luther King was a Republican!
Sun, November 2, 2008 - 9:40 AM
It never ceases to amaze me how low you people will go ...
Everything out a Republicans mouth is a lie, or a manipulation of the truth and it's beyond me how anyone of you Republicans can talk any crap with the Bush (Republicans) administration has done and hijacked this country and stripped us all of our rights and freedom and messed up the economy the worst sense the great depression along with an illegal war, to spy on all of us with Patriot Act we've lost our privacy - i bet they are even looking at this blog- now they've taken over our banks and our housing and financial institutions.
Fascism and Police states are just up ahead...but THANK GOD for Obama he's heaven sent to get these DEVILS out of Office.
BUSH CHENEY RICE AND RUMSFELD AND MCCAIN ...Even Powell endorses OBama
And it was actually because of King and the Kennedy's connection that Black people began four decades of voting for liberals.
the Government was spying on them before John and Jack Kennedy and the democratic party it's one of the reasons why the Kennedy's got shot. I suggest you leaving Texas and venturing out to the real world.
The Devil J Edgar Hoover (republican) has been in the FBI stirring up trouble since Calvin Coolidge (1924) he had King, the Kennedy's, and Malcolm x shot en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Edgar_Hoover
Martin Luther King was a Baptist minister.
"The Democrats held a narrow majority in Congress, and many of the Democratic seats were held by Southerners who opposed civil rights legislation. The president (Kennedy) needed the white Southern vote to win reelection in 1964. So Kennedy adopted a cautious approach to civil rights, emphasizing enforcement of existing laws over the creation of new ones."
"Kennedy pushed civil rights on many fronts. He ordered his attorney general to submit friends of the court briefs on behalf of civil rights litigants. He appointed African Americans to positions within his administration, named Thurgood Marshall to the Second Circuit Court of Appeals in New York, and supported voter registration drives."
"But such an approach was problematic. By not addressing civil rights publicly and comprehensively, Kennedy was forced to address racial incidents on a case by case basis -- often after they had escalated to violence. In May, 1961, racists attacked Freedom Riders traveling by bus from Washington, D.C. to Birmingham, Alabama. Kennedy sent federal marshals to protect the protesters. But even armed marshals could not guarantee protection."
Controversial Ad Links MLK, GOP False Assertion About Civil Rights Leader Angers Americans
Washingtonpost
www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...54.html
When a black conservative group ran a radio ad proclaiming that the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. was a Republican, reaction was swift. "We've gotten some e-mails and telephone calls filled with vitriol," said Frances Rice, chairman of the National Black Republican Association. "They've called me Aunt Jemima, a sellout, a traitor to my race."
In the battle for the black electorate, liberals, who make up the overwhelming majority of black voters, have long disagreed with conservatives over ideology, public policy and economic strategies to better the lives of African Americans. But when conservatives placed the civil rights movement in a Republican context, African Americans said, they crossed a line.
"To suggest that Martin could identify with a party that affirms preemptive, predatory war, and whose religious partners hint that God affirms war and favors the rich at the expense of the poor, is to revile Martin," said the Rev. Joseph Lowery, the former president of the Southern Christian Leadership Conference, which the slain civil rights leader helped establish.
Rep. John Lewis (D-Ga.), who marched with King in the 1960s, called the ads an "insult to the legacy and the memory of Martin Luther King Jr." and "an affront to all that he stood for."
Maryland Lt. Gov. Michael Steele (R), who is running for the U.S. Senate, denounced the King ad, and Donald E. Scoggins, president of Republicans for Black Empowerment and a former member of the association, said it was a terrible idea.
Republicans railed against the radio ads, with the sharpest criticism coming from former members of the black Republican association.
"The vast majority of black Republicans I know would not have approved of the ad," Scoggins said.
It is true that Southern Democrats, many of whom called themselves "Dixiecrats," blocked the social and political progress of black Southerners for decades. Among them was Sen. Robert C. Byrd (D-W.Va.), a former local leader in the Ku Klux Klan. Byrd has said he regrets his affiliation.
In 1960, King was arrested for trespassing during a sit-in and held in Georgia's Reidsville prison. Fearing for his son's life, Martin Luther King Sr. appealed to presidential candidate John F. Kennedy to secure his release.
When King was freed, his father vowed to deliver 10 million votes to the Democrat, even though Kennedy was only a reluctant supporter of civil rights. That began four decades of black people voting for liberals.
The younger King voted for Kennedy, and for Democrat Lyndon B. Johnson four years later. In that election, King publicly denounced the Republican candidate, Barry Goldwater.
Today, the vast majority of black voters are Democrats, including former ambassador to the United Nations Andrew Young and former presidential hopeful Jesse L. Jackson, two former King aides.
That is why the ad was "a joke," said Christopher Arps, a former spokesman for Rice and the association. "Anyone with any sense knows that most black people were Republican at one time. But it's a far stretch to think that in the '60s Martin Luther King was a Republican." -
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Re: Martin Luther King was a Republican!
Sun, November 2, 2008 - 9:51 AMDomestic Policy On Martin Luther King
the evening of May 3, 1963, Americans watched on television as Martin Luther King Jr.'s campaign to desegregate Birmingham, Alabama collapsed under a wave of officially sanctioned violence. Birmingham police attacked peaceful black demonstrators with clubs, dogs, and high-pressure fire hoses, and for the first time many citizens understood the breadth of America's racial divide. Perhaps no one regarded the events with more anguish than President John Fitzgerald Kennedy. The violence in Birmingham proved that Kennedy's piecemeal approach to civil rights had failed.
Elected president in 1960, Kennedy had campaigned on an idealistic New Frontier platform. The president believed that by showing the world what a free and democratic society had to offer, the United States could ensure the defeat of Communism. Unfortunately, since Kennedy had taken office, the world had seen the negative side of America -- intolerance and oppression. Despite Constitutional assurances to the contrary, African Americans were treated as second class citizens. They were frequently denied access to public facilities, prohibited from exercising their voting rights, and subjected to racist violence.
Under leaders such as King, African Americans organized nonviolent protests to gain access to public facilities. They sued in the courts for equal treatment, and used the pulpits and the press to eloquently state the case for full citizenship. And they implored their president to take a forceful public stand by issuing a call for comprehensive civil rights legislation.
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In Birmingham on May 3 of 1963 alter the course of history. The nightsticks, the police dogs, and the fire hoses had revealed a glimpse of what America could become. Unless Kennedy took a firm stand, the New Frontier might deteriorate into a bloody race war.
On the evening of June 11, just hours after federal marshals had escorted black students to their dormitories at the University of Alabama at Tuscaloosa, the president delivered a televised address to the nation. Speaking with conviction, Kennedy announced he would send comprehensive civil rights legislation to Congress. The package would include provisions for access to public facilities, voting rights, and technical and monetary support for school desegregation.
"The heart of the question," the president said, "is whether all Americans are to be afforded equal rights and opportunities." The answer from those who opposed civil rights came later that evening, when segregationist Byron de La Beckwith (A Republican) shot and killed Medgar Evers, the NAACP's Mississippi field secretary.
*Jesse Helms finally does the right thing socialistworker.org/2008/07/...ght-thing Southern Democrat-turned-Republican, Helms personified the Republicans' "Southern Strategy" of using racism to win a new electoral base.
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Some believe that President Kennedy's presidency was owed, at least in part, to Dr. Martin Luther King. In a moment of stunning political pressure inside his own camp, candidate Kennedy reached out to Martin Luther King when he was convicted of a probation violation after participating in a diner sit-in in Atlanta, Georgia. Forever the political pragmatist, Kennedy saw the light and interceded on behalf of King to get him released from Reidsville Prison. That, as some tell it, changed history. King as an ally brought out the black vote, helping to defeat Nixon.
However, once president, Kennedy was simply too obsessed with foreign policy issues to turn his attention to the home front. He just didn't get the importance of King's fights down south, at first, especially when juxtaposed against the crisis brewing overseas. The challenges escalating between East and West Germany kept JFK's attention focused on nuclear confrontation, then came the Cuban Missile crisis. But eventually, JFK began to finally understand that the home front matters as much as what's happening "over there," especially in the face of horrible prejudice. Kennedy was a man who could change it and he did.
Known as the Birmingham Campaign, King altered history and shifted Kennedy's thinking along with it. His famous "Letter from Birmingham Jail" is now legend. It was King's incarceration in Birmingham that led Coretta Scott King to call President Kennedy, which resulted in him interceding once again on King's behalf, forcing the Birmingham bigots to allow King to talk to his wife.
It took constant campaigning from King, but JFK came to understand that action was required. Kennedy became the first president since Truman to trumpet the cause of civil rights. President John F. Kennedy's civil rights legislation was met with fierce opposition by the southern delegations of Congress. He was assassinated before it became law.
King's eulogy upon JFK's death proved the respect each man had won from the other and that politicians can change to forge great hopes for those oppressed. He said that John F. Kennedy lived his life to "move forward with more determination to rid our nation of the vestiges of racial segregation and discrimination."
www.taylormarsh.com/archives_view.php
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Re: Martin Luther King was a Republican!
Sun, November 2, 2008 - 12:18 PM
W: "No, endorsing Kennedy was MLK's greatest mistake. It's why our country is so full of welfare recipients today.
>"I guess you agree with the Democratic party that blacks are incapable of doing anything at all unless da gubment he'p dem? Sorry, I happen to think differently. I happen to think that there are many strong and powerful black men and women who got that way without the government rolling out the red carpet and stealing my money to do it. Black Republicans wish they could help black Democrats see the facts, but they have been so brainwashed."<
There are more white people (Trailer Park Trash) are on welfare than any black people, black people make up only about 12% and the minorities in this country (Women included) are not about hand-outs but Fair Opportunity Social Justice and Equality -black people and other minorities have been shut out of the dream. It starts with city and state land development and zoning (why so many black people live on the South sides) then on to the Schools and then Employment, then legal injustices... poor people pay more taxes than anyone and Israel is currently getting our tax benefits as we're still paying them Reparations.
Yeah and now you all want us to bail out Wall Street ...Uh!? Uh!? What!? you talk about hand outs?
But Babylon is falling Praise God!
Malcolm X once said: "If you are the son of a man who had a wealthy estate and you inherit your father's estate, you have to pay off the debts that your father incurred before he died. The only reason that the present generation of white Americans are in a position of economic strength . . . is because their fathers worked our fathers for over 400 years with no pay. . . . We were sold from plantation to plantation like you sell a horse, or a cow, or a chicken, or a bushel of wheat. . . . All that money is what gives the present generation of American whites the ability to walk around the earth with their chest out . . . like they have some kind of economic ingenuity. Your father isn't here to pay. My father isn't here to collect. But I'm here to collect, and you're here to pay." -
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Sun, November 2, 2008 - 12:31 PM
I would just like to say that's not all about Obama, it was all the beautiful WHITE people of this country who has stepped forward
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Sun, November 2, 2008 - 12:51 PMWorth reading.
My wife made me canvas for Obama; here's what I learned
This election is not about major policies. It's about hope.
By Jonathan Curley
November 3, 2008
Charlotte, N.C. - There has been a lot of speculation that Barack Obama might win the election due to his better "ground game" and superior campaign organization.
I had the chance to view that organization up close this month when I canvassed for him. I'm not sure I learned much about his chances, but I learned a lot about myself and about this election.
Let me make it clear: I'm pretty conservative. I grew up in the suburbs. I voted for George H.W. Bush twice, and his son once. I was disappointed when Bill Clinton won, and disappointed he couldn't run again.
I encouraged my son to join the military. I was proud of him in Afghanistan, and happy when he came home, and angry when he was recalled because of the invasion of Iraq. I'm white, 55, I live in the South and I'm definitely going to get a bigger tax bill if Obama wins.
I am the dreaded swing voter.
So you can imagine my surprise when my wife suggested we spend a Saturday morning canvassing for Obama. I have never canvassed for any candidate. But I did, of course, what most middle-aged married men do: what I was told.
At the Obama headquarters, we stood in a group to receive our instructions. I wasn't the oldest, but close, and the youngest was maybe in high school. I watched a campaign organizer match up a young black man who looked to be college age with a white guy about my age to canvas together. It should not have been a big thing, but the beauty of the image did not escape me.
Instead of walking the tree-lined streets near our home, my wife and I were instructed to canvass a housing project. A middle-aged white couple with clipboards could not look more out of place in this predominantly black neighborhood.
We knocked on doors and voices from behind carefully locked doors shouted, "Who is it?"
"We're from the Obama campaign," we'd answer. And just like that doors opened and folks with wide smiles came out on the porch to talk.
Grandmothers kept one hand on their grandchildren and made sure they had all the information they needed for their son or daughter to vote for the first time.
Young people came to the door rubbing sleep from their eyes to find out where they could vote early, to make sure their vote got counted.
We knocked on every door we could find and checked off every name on our list. We did our job, but Obama may not have been the one who got the most out of the day's work.
I learned in just those three hours that this election is not about what we think of as the "big things."
It's not about taxes. I'm pretty sure mine are going to go up no matter who is elected.
It's not about foreign policy. I think we'll figure out a way to get out of Iraq and Afghanistan no matter which party controls the White House, mostly because the people who live there don't want us there anymore.
I don't see either of the candidates as having all the answers.
I've learned that this election is about the heart of America. It's about the young people who are losing hope and the old people who have been forgotten. It's about those who have worked all their lives and never fully realized the promise of America, but see that promise for their grandchildren in Barack Obama. The poor see a chance, when they often have few. I saw hope in the eyes and faces in those doorways.
My wife and I went out last weekend to knock on more doors. But this time, not because it was her idea. I don't know what it's going to do for the Obama campaign, but it's doing a lot for me. -
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Sun, November 2, 2008 - 12:59 PM
Thanks Erik, that was a great post ...
I'm having some computer problems and making a lot of typos I just want to make this clear
I would just like to say that' it's not all about Obama, it is about all the beautiful WHITE people of this country who have stepped forward
and selected Obama to Champion this country for us - remember the Govt. is supposed be ours and work for us.
Obama without them (beautiful White people) Obama is nothing -
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Sun, November 2, 2008 - 2:49 PMHey, aren't we just the biggest minority now?
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Sun, November 2, 2008 - 6:51 PM"black people make up only about 12% and the minorities in this country (Women included)"
Again, you can thank the Democrats for that one. The push to rid America of blacks and other undesirables is well supported through the Democratic Party with their staunch support of Planned Parenthood. WOOHOO! Way to go Planned Parenthood! You are winning the war to rid America of the genetically inferior! They can't keep them from having sex apparently, but they can damn sure push the abortion agenda down their little brainwashed minds.
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Sun, November 2, 2008 - 7:08 PMWendy, just because Planned Parenthood was founded by someone who supported eugenics a century ago, does not mean that we should scrap all the good work that organization does today in helping women escape slavery to biology. Your dancing on a slippery slope there. Following your logic, the United States should be abandoned because it was built on genocide of Indians and enslavement of blacks. Your religion should be abolished because it has over two millennia of ethnic minority oppression, murder, warfare, slavery, and ruthless exploitation of the poor under it's belt. In fact, following your logic every single institution in existence today should probably be done away with because at some point in it's past it crossed some line and transgressed against someone somewhere.
The point you seem to be missing is that everything changes over time. MLK was a Republican? Great! Different times and completely different Republican Party. The Republicans aren't even conservatives anymore, that's how much the party has changed.
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Sun, November 2, 2008 - 7:30 PM
BIG D! My hero Yay! ;-)
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Sun, November 2, 2008 - 8:56 PM"Your religion should be abolished because it has over two millennia"
I don't believe in religion Bid Daddy, I thought you knew that already. Religion kills. Religion is not synonymous with faith. And Catholocism is not representative of Jesus' teachings, since you are referring to the actions of the Holy Roman Catholic Church and the businessmen and 'king" who run it.
Try again.
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Sun, November 2, 2008 - 9:01 PM"just because Planned Parenthood was founded by someone who supported eugenics a century ago, does not mean that we should scrap all the good work that organization does today in helping women escape slavery to biology."
You keep thinking that. Any wonder why they love aborting more and more and more minority babies, mostly black? Is it because its mostly blacks who have unprotected sex? No. It's because they are black. Try doing some research into them. PP is evil, racist, and has brainwashed the nation into thinking they are doing it for "reproductive health." You want to know what solves unwanted pregnancy? A woman can stick a dime between her knees and hold it there. The entire time she is out on her date, she can't let that dime drop and she can't touch it with her hands or tape or any other artificial means of keeping it there. Guaranteed, no baby. Abortion is killing, and PP is about killing black and other minority babies. Oh sure, the also like to kill inferior white babies too. The poor whites are also considered inferior. Do some independent research. Also, I am sick of my tax dollars going to PP. -
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Sun, November 2, 2008 - 9:57 PM
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Wed, November 5, 2008 - 5:28 PMYes, Planned Parenthood performs abortions and they do it with our tax dollars. The particularly love killing all those young black and hispanic girls babies.
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Wed, November 5, 2008 - 4:39 PM"You keep thinking that. Any wonder why they love aborting more and more and more minority babies, mostly black? Is it because its mostly blacks who have unprotected sex? No. It's because they are black."
Once again, Wendy goes off the deep end in her tinfoil bikini. It couldn't possibly be related to the poorer quality of education those populations receive, or the agendas of christian whack jobs who believe we have an obligation overpopulate the earth, and never ever even discuss the subject of sex, and the disproportionate effect they have on those communities because of their reliegious tendencies. No, its because PP is still operating as a racist organization in the 21st century. Yessiree. Go hang out with the lightship and chemtrail crowd will ya?
No, wait, keep right on flapping your lips, so the whole world gets to see how buckwild n batshit crazy you really are. You are the reason most conservatives are becoming quickly equated with the 'will believe anything' 'complete dumbass redneck' stereotype. -
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Wed, November 5, 2008 - 5:32 PMOOOOOOOH, you believe it's because black people just can't keep their legs closed? Wow, you have now made Margaret Sanger's original argument!
Congratulations!
I can't believe you would actually take Margaret Sanger's position. You must be right, the black race just can't control their sexual urges and would be humping in the streets if there wasn't sufficient police enforcement.
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Thu, November 6, 2008 - 9:41 AMDon't make me part of your twisted view of the world you retard.
Margret Sanger was a retard, too. I said nothing of the kind. She wanted sterilization, I want education for all. Why that makes me evil in your mind is beyond me. Then again, your mind is way beyond me too. Sorry sister, simplicity this ain't.
Here's the reality, choocherilla. Sociology 10freaking1.
People are emotional creatures, and tend to follow up on emotional impulses, unless they gain some degree of self control either through personal will or education regarding how to, or better still the 'why should I'. Development through personal will is possible, but its the rarity, judging by how little it seems to occur, at least around teenage years. Sex is a basic biological drive. teens are emotional creatures, full of raging hormones and whatnot. Our society encourages, rather than discourages legs being spread open, regardless of your color. As an example, watch MTV for a minute on the days they actually still play music, or better yet BET, watch that for a few minutes and tell me what messages are being sent to our young people? Is it to be good wholesome people? Or spread your legs and look like to the ho on TV? Pick any color you like, the message to girls is: be sexy to be cool (go through the kids section at Target, see anything inappropriate yet?) the message to boys: break the law, do what you want to, sex everyone you can find, and you'll make a million dollars by singing about it like me. Drugs good, sex good, money good.
If this is your idea of a good time for our young people, you're a even more of a trainwreck of a human being than I took you for so far, and that's pretty far out there.
You think education against that message is bad for any subgroup in America? You think any subgroup in America regardless of color can benefit from that message? Who do you think is teaching the kids, the TV or the parent who is working two or three jobs just to pay the bills? Whatever it is you think you know, you're missing a whole helluva lot of the points. -
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Thu, November 6, 2008 - 1:10 PMSoooooooooooooooo, you have no problem with the fact that parents aren't doing their jobs? You have no problem that we aren't confronting the issues of our morally corrupt society? Instead, you want to teach elementary kids how to masturbate, and junior high kids how to put on condoms?
Says a lot about you, doesn't it.
And Margaret Sanger wanted increased abortions of black babies, Irish babies, poor people's babies. She wanted the parents sterilized as well as handicapped or retarded people. She was the US Eugenics proponent and used legalized abortion as birth control and the sterilization concept as her means of perfecting the human race (which did not include blacks, because they were less evolved than real humans.)
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Thu, November 6, 2008 - 3:44 PMYou don't even understand what I'm saying, so put down your self-righteous barf bag.
I have a problem with the fact that parents are not ABLE to do their jobs because being a stay-at-home parent is next to impossibe in this country below a certain income level. I'd love parents to be able to do the job, but some of them just aren't around to do it. Your histrionic fantasies about what passes for sex ed in this country are plain nuts. I don't know who is teaching that cirriculum (not that I would) but if its really happening that sounds pretty bad to me too.
1) I was taught about sex ed in fifth grade. After that I think 'health class' started in about 6th grade. By age 14 I was well aware that a condom was at least one of the methods to prevent pregancy. No one in any school taught mastrubation, or how to put a condom on. Both things were one of those items that became self-explanatory pretty quickly. There would have been some hell to pay if they'd been taught in school. What was taught was that your urges were natural, and you weren't some kind of demon for popping a boner every ten seconds. No responsible educator would advocate for anything above that, though some chuckleheaded ones just might when they saw the results of the BET brainwashing, and saw sexualized prepubescents. Not an ideal answer to a fucked up situation, but what can you expect from parents who feed toddlers McDonalds as a primary diet? I've heard kids call in to sex ed question radio shows wanting to know if they can get pregnant through their clothes. So yeah, sex education is good. Sex ignorance bad, because abstinance is fantasy in the US. Let each community decide when and to what degree what gets taught. Its a free country. Just don't hide the knowledge. Make it available in the clinic and make it mandatory to understand options before termination. You can't just hide from it beat it down and expect it to go the hell away. You have to be courageous enough to look at the realities and respond to them as they are, not hide in the corner shaking the fear stick and cowering from a boogey man you learned about in home school.
By the way: What is your solution, miss crankypants?
2) I'll say it again, fuck Margaret Sanger. She saw the same problems we see today and went cuckoo bananas in identifying the problems and proposing solutions. She was fucking nuts and you are quite right to villify her as a fascist loon. I never said I supported PP, I simply oppose your superstitious caterwauling and presumption about some ongoing eugenics conspiracy for which you have zero proof is occurring today post-Sanger. Put up or shut up, you nutcake. -
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Thu, November 6, 2008 - 10:18 PMthe book that is being proposed for introduction in elementary school talks about the private parts and which ones "feel good" and that you touch them in private. That stuff has no place in school.
About making mandatory information about options BEFORE termination, I agree. But Planned Parenthood, where everyone goes to get their babies killed, has no desire to present adoption information.
You might find this amusing: www.youtube.com/watch
But you can do the research yourself.
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Fri, November 7, 2008 - 7:11 PM"And Margaret Sanger wanted increased abortions of black babies, Irish babies, poor people's babies. She wanted the parents sterilized as well as handicapped or retarded people. She was the US Eugenics proponent and used legalized abortion as birth control and the sterilization concept as her means of perfecting the human race (which did not include blacks, because they were less evolved than real humans.)"
First of all, even if what you were claiming were true, which it's not, so what? Margaret Sanger has been dead for more than 40 years. Planned Parenthood doesn't force ANYONE to go get an abortion. Shit, what do you think they do? Run Planned Parenthood busses through the projects and barrios, rounding up poor pregnant women for quick and efficient abortions? You're out of your mind. What Sanger believed and what Planned Parenthood does today are two different things and they're totally irrelevant to one another. As I pointed out to you before, Wendy, we would have to abolish every institution we know - INCLUDING YOUR CHURCH - were we to judge each of these based upon the crimes they committed in the past. You're simply cherry picking organizations to vilify based upon bad information and misguided moral development thanks to the anti-christ you follow. Give it up. Give up your fear of outdated ideas like "socialism." Give up being so terrified of everything. I know it makes your life much more exciting out their in flat, boring, dunderheaded full Texas to believe in all these hokey conspiracy theories, but it's all make believe, Wendy. None of the things you're afraid of are actually real. Snap out of it already! -
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Fri, November 7, 2008 - 10:40 PM"even if what you were claiming were true, which it's not,"
I expected better from you BD! Do your research on the real Margaret Sanger. She firmly believed that "negro's" were less evolved than humans. She believed that they had no control over their sexual urges, just like dogs, and would have sex in the streets if it weren't for the police presence! Really BD, do some research into the founder of Planned Parenthood and International Planned Parenthood.
As for being terrified, you are probably too old to go to war. I am not. I can still be called back up. You do realize we are going to war with Iran, right? You do know that Obama has been planning with his advisers on how to best conduct the war in Iran? You did pay attention to what he actually said and weren't dazzled with HOW he said it? You have read his website and his views on forcing our high school students into social service? And you aren't worried at all about his civilian paramilitary force that he wants to be "as strong or stronger" than our current Federal military and National Guards?
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Sun, November 9, 2008 - 8:36 PMWendy, what has happened to your brain? It's as though you converted to that religion of yours and gave up all ability for abstract thought. You need to quit your church and return to the land of the thinking.
Margaret Sanger firmly believed that "negroes" were less evolved than Caucasians and had no control over their sexual impulses? Yeah, and? This was a commonly held viewpoint among whites until the middle of the 20th Century. What do you think justified holding blacks as slaves? What do you think justified their continued oppression after the end of the Civil War? Why is Margaret Sanger such a criminal to you when asshats like Thomas Jefferson, an avid underage slave fucker/rapist, are like totally heroes to your kind? You can't just cherry pick bits and pieces of history and judge the actions of people in the past by contemporary standards in a desperate attempt to support your insupportable position. Yes, Wendy, insupportable. You guys never make a single coherent or logical argument in support of any of your positions. It's always crap like this - misconstrued and ill applied "history" that bares little relevance to anything at all that's presented in a whirlwind of handwringing and hysterics. Give it up. If you have a point to make about birth control I'd love to hear it. All this crap is just that, crap.
As far as going to war with Iran, you must be out of your mind. We can't AFFORD to go to war with ANYONE. What? You think money grows on trees? Obama is not a neocon. He is not about to further a failed ideology just to make people like you, terrified of everything and everyone, all happy inside. It's not going to happen. Give it up.
Finally, this forced social service you describe already exists, it's called Americorps. Quick, run and hide! Some fresh college graduate is coming to town to teach your kids how to read, write, and cipher so she can pay back some of her student loans. The horror! Give me a break. Yes, Wendy, I am a strong supporter of national service. I think all Americans should be FORCED to serve their country in some capacity for a two year period after high school. Why not? Too many freeloaders round these parts already.
As for the rest of your blathering, I have no idea what you're talking about because I don't listen to AM talk radio in rural Texas like you do. I want you to keep in mind that for the last six years, we've read repeatedly right here on Tribe about how George Bush was going to seize control of the country and establish a dictatorship. I don't know how many times I've had to roll my eyes in here or in Politics or in IPD as a bunch of back to the land, burning man/hippie types held pissing contests over whose gun was big enough to defend their pissant enclave from the evil forces of George Bush. Granted, we lost a lot of freedoms during the Bush tyranny, but this much feared dictatorship never happened. If it didn't happen with Bush, it sure as hell isn't going to happen with Barry.
Why are you so completely devoted to being terrified, miserable, and afraid? Is this the joy and peace your religion has brought you? I think you need to check in with your god there, Wendy. Accepting Christ into your heart is supposed to bring you peace of mind, not turn you into a raving lunatic waiting in line for entry to the nearest loony bin. Snap out of it!
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Sun, November 9, 2008 - 11:33 PM"As far as going to war with Iran,... Obama is not a neocon."
BWAAAHAHHAHAHAAHAAHA! Uhm, BD, do you ever actually LISTEN to what Obama says, or do you just sit there and drool and mumble after drinking the kool-aid? Obama has no problem with war, he's said it more than once, he just likes to pick and choose which ones HE thinks are necessary. We can't afford ANY of the things Obama wants to do, but is that going to stop him from trying? Nope. And he doesn't need Congressional approval to send troops to Iran. Wrap your mind around that one. I know it hurts, but try.
"this forced social service you describe already exists, it's called Americorps"
Since when did Americorps become forced instead of voluntary? And let's not forget his new civilian paramilitary army he wants to build, and he wants it to be "just as strong just as well funded" than our existing Federal military and our National Guards. What do you think about that one Mr. BD?
www.youtube.com/watch <--------Watch him for yourself!
"I think all Americans should be FORCED to serve"
13th Amendment
Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime where of the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.
Section 2. Congress shall have the power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.
I guess you want to return to slavery then. I am surprised at you.
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Mon, November 10, 2008 - 12:02 AMBias Busters of Kansas are already pushing for Nov 4th to be a National Holiday in honor of His Holiness Obamessiah, to mark the day America "grew up!"
BWAHAHAAHHAHAAAHAHHAHA!
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Mon, November 10, 2008 - 11:33 AMYes, how dare America show progress, what an anathema to reality this must be for you. Sorry, the middle ages are gone for good, honey bean. Stay stuck in the 18th century if you want, that's your right. We'll pass you the prozac and the fuzzy pillows. It'll be aaaall right. -
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Mon, November 10, 2008 - 10:39 PMI think we should have a national holiday in honor of my birthday. Because, I was born on that day. I didn't actually DO anything, but then, neither has Obama yet. But hey, if HE can have a national holiday for just being him, so can I!
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Wed, November 5, 2008 - 4:28 PMCalling Wendy's thought process "logic" is being very generous, Big Daddy. Hell, so is calling it "thought"...
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Sun, November 2, 2008 - 7:22 PM
>"You are winning the war to rid America of the genetically inferior! Don't know what I am talking about? Learn some facts"<
LOL!
Soul: it's all in the Melanin baby!
The science of Genetics shows that Blacks can produce all races but it is impossible for a brown, yellow or white race to produce a black race. A Japanese scientist showed that inside melanocytes (pigment cells) are tiny packets called melanosomes that contatin melanin.
"All humans possess this Black internal brain evidence of their common Black Afrikan Origin. The All Black neuromelanin nerve tract of the brain is profound proof that the human race is a Black race, with many variations of Black, from Black-Black to White-Black, all internally rooted in a vast sea of Brain Blackness."
"Humanity may differ in outer appearance, with variations of colors but internally they are all black, all African at the core. The question for all humans is how to relate to this blackness.
A transformation process requires, first, the right heart or feelings and profound African knowledge as taught in ancient African universities. Today's racist is afraid, ignorant of his/her blackness, choosing to run from the ancestral Black core. Today's reborn black masters will accept their blackness, become unified with the universe and be inspired to creative genius at levels that surpass the pyramids."
Most whites have calcified pineal glands
apparently thwarting their production of Melatonin
Why did Afrikans view the European as a child of God, but the Europeans viewed the Afrikan as a soulless savage? Because of "melatonin," described as a mentally and morally stimulating hormone produced by the pineal gland. According to scientific research, most whites are unable produce much of this hormone because their pineal glands are often calcified and non-functioning.
The pineal calcification rates with Afrikans is 5-15%; Asians 15-25%; Europeans 60-80%! 1 Dr. Richard Kings states "When we talk about cultural differences, some black scholars have raised the question that the European approach, that of the logical, erect, rigid, anti-feeling posture, reflects a left brain orientation and reflects that they lack the chemical key [melatonin] to turn on their unconscious and therefore cannot get into feelings..."
Carol Barnes writes "Melanin is responsible for the existence of civilization, philosophy, religion, truth, justice, and righteousness.
Individuals (whites) containing low levels of Melanin will behave in a barbaric manner." Melanin gives humans the ability to FEEL because it is the absorber of all frequencies of energy. Since whites have the least amount of Melanin, this is why they are perceived by People of Color as generally being rigid, unfeeling (heartless), cold, calculating, mental, and "unspiritual." Their historical behavior towards nonwhites often confirms this.
The scientific evidence of Melanin threatens the life of white supremacy
After considering Melanin to be a "waste" product of body-metabolism which "served no useful function," Western science has now discovered that Black Melanin (neuromelanin) is the chemical key to life and the brain itself.
All the studies, facts, and statistics about Melanin suggest that after four hundred years of attempting to inferiorize the Black race, "Western science is facing the sobering reality that, by its own self-defined standards, Black people are probably superior to whites in both intellectual potential and muscle coordination." 2 The central role that melanin plays in the body has been "suppressed to maintain the mythological inferiority of blacks...and the defensive clinging to whiteness as some token of superiority."
The "superiority complex" of white people
is a mask for their deepset inferiority complex
which they project onto people of color.
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Thu, November 6, 2008 - 9:57 AMheateddebate.tribe.net/thread...f06ba77
when a party loses the ability to provide answers and is guilty of war crimes and crimes against freedom, they resort to jingoism and finger pointing.
when that fails, they just cover their ears and scream "LA LA LA LA LA LA LA" and hope that reason fades away.